Thanks CA BOWHUNTER. That is my son Gatlin shooting with Dad. He LOVES the outdoors; shooting, fishing, etc.. I am going to order AD's today and try them out. I am shooting BW 52@28 and I draw 28.5". I am also ordering the new Simmons Tiger Shark head which weighs 175 grains. I think the AD Trad will be the right spine. I think the AD lites would not have enough spine for that head from my bow. Am I wrong? Bowwild; if someone from CE said that then that would be reason for me to not buy their shafts as well.