Right of appeal

[damascusdave]

Anyone else kinda annoyed when a thread gets pulled without any direct explanation of why and without any opportunity to appeal the decision?

DDave

to the topic starter and for all to see ...

as specified in the board rules, admins and mods can pull any topic, post or image at any time and without notification.

if you didn't receive notification of a pulled thread or post or image, you surely can email or pm the webmaster, an admin or a mod for clarification.

ALSO, putting up a public topic about forum administration is a big no-no, too.

rob.
trad gang admin.

[leatherneck]

Nope.   (I really hope your kidding)

[leatherneck]

[Uncle Buck]

If it violates the rules, it needs to go I persoanlly dont need any further explanation. the rules we have here are what separates this forum from the others.

[Ragnarok Forge]

Nope!  I have even been corrected by email a time or two.  No opportunity to ask why, or expectation of an explination.  I thanked the moderator for the reminder and dropped it.  I like to play with the trad kids here.  I have to follow the rules to get to do so.

I look at it like someone is visiting and we are standing in my back yard.  If they get out of line with the property rules, I simply say we don't do that here.  I don't offer explinations. My friends and family show courtesy and accept that is how it is.  If I get push back or grilled with whys and how comes, I tell them to shut it and escort them off the propery with a firm reminder to never come back.  Simple as that. I show the same courtesy to my friends and family on their property.

[ron w]

There you have it....well put!!

[damascusdave]

We have an awful lot of rules on here and what about the situations that are kinda murky, maybe a bit unpalatable, maybe a bit politically incorrect, yet of value for open and honest discussion?

DDave

[damascusdave]

Do not misunderstand me, I am not trying to start a war of words here, just trying to make a reasonable appeal to people's sense of freedom of speech.

We have seen a continual erosion of that right here in Canada and without due diligence it can happen in your country too.

Remember there are two sides to a thread getting pulled. I never start a thread lightly and without some pretty serious thought about the merits of that thread and I would hope the moderators give it equally serious thought before determining that it is clearly in violation of both the spirit and the letter of the rules.

DDave

[flinthead]

Someone has to decide when it is time to pull the plug on a thread that might be offensive to others. Any decision will be questioned by someone. The decisions here have given this site a positive and informative view. If you do not like the site avoid it. I like it.Trying to convince me this site is going in the wrong direction is a waste of time for both of us. Enjoy it as it is. Thanks ,  One opinion , Roy

[Lefty]

There is not a free license to speak anyway you like on a private forum, under  the guise of freedom of speak.  By all means give your opinion, but understand that if it violates the rules or spirit of the site, and this is determined by the site owner and their moderators, then it may be pulled or deleted.  The main things to remember is be respectful of others follow the stated rules for posting and don't take it personal, if you get a thread pulled.  It is not about any individual, but the health and direction of the site, as the owner sees it.  You are a guest and we are blessed to have such a site.  At least that is my opinion.

Originally posted by damascusdave:
We have an awful lot of rules on here and what about the situations that are kinda murky, maybe a bit unpalatable, maybe a bit politically incorrect, yet of value for open and honest discussion?

DDave

DDAVE,
Your reasoning (a bit this...a bit that...not too offensive...I've seen worse...etc) is why TG has adopted many rules....to draw a line in the sand.

That line represents the will of thousands of good people which is to know that they, their friends and children will not have to endure what others may consider acceptable but in reality not according to the standard set by TG.

I am surprised you would ask the question having been here for nearly three years..

I mean no offense to you and don't pretend to speak for for anyone else but I like TG just the way it is.  I have had posts and threads zapped a time or two because I had apparently stepped too close to or over the line according to the moderators.  I am happy they will err to the side of caution and will support them all wholeheartedly without question.

If you want to discuss "marginally acceptable or sort of offensive" subjects it can be done anywhere on the net....but thankfully, not here.

respectfully.....

[elknutz]

I see it as a Traditional BOWHUNTING privately owned website that I am allowed to participate on.  I have other interests and other places I  can visit.  I like this one the best so when I am here I don't feel any need to change it to what I would like it to be.  It suites me fine and I like how its run.  Its a free market, they can run it the way they want and so far the only wealth redistribution that is taking place is freely shared knowledge.  Thanks Tradgang.

[30pointbuck]

Thats what makes this site as great as it is, The admin, and mods. throwing out all the junk.
There are other sites for that keep up the good work mods.

[pdk25]

If the mods want to take the time to discuss it with you, it is their decision.  A privately owned site  can do what it wants to. It can be frustrating when it seems that posted rules are sometimes arbitrarily enforced, but it must be a tough job. I don' t see how public arguing/discussing pulled threads with the mods will make the site better.

[maxwell]

Nope- it is what it is.

[Izzy]

You wouldnt be afforded freedom of speech in my house, you would hastily removed if your words offended me or my family. Why should you have freedom of speech here on a privately owned forum?This is not your site or a site that you have powers over.  If you feel offended, sorry but again this aint your house, your just a visitor like me.

[NewtoTrad2008]

This topic has been discussed many times already and it is basically like others have already said, we are guest on their site we play by their rules.
What does this have to do with traditional archery anyway, isn't that what this forum is for?    

[McDave]

The practical reason mod's decisions can't be appealed is that mods just don't have the time to deal with it.  I assume they have lives like all the rest of us, and only have so much spare time they can devote to this site.

Another reason is that there needs to be a balance in life between fairness and getting the job done.  Take the public schools, for example.  Back when I attended grade school, the principal's word was law; there was no appeal.  Maybe things were unfair, but people got educated.  If you wouldn't get with the program, you got kicked out.  Now, things are a lot more fair, but I wonder if the job is getting done?

[Huntschool]

McDave... Not fair.. more liberal and then there are those "I am gonna sue" folks.  As to the education...  Its not getting done !!!!

[Pat B]

On a privately owned website there is only one side!
If you are not sure about a subject, PM one of the Mods or Terry personally and they will let you know if it is OK or not.