Tell me your 600+gr arrow set up for 52lbs@27in

[bowisbest]

Hi Guys,

I would like to hear everyones arrow set ups to put together a 600+grain finished arrow.  I am hunting Elk this year and want a a good heavy arrow set up.  Shooting a Black Widow PSR III at 27in 52lbs.  Thanks    

J

[**DONOTDELETE**]

My Ash arrows are over 600 grn 30"BOP w/160 Grn point.

[longbowray]

How long are arrows going to be BOP and what are looking at wood , etc . Asking because just made some that were right at 600 out of fir surewood 70-75 with 29 1/2 BOP with 125 up front for my 54 lb bob lee I draw 29  Just my 2 cent

[bowisbest]

Sorry all, I am actually going to be using carbon arrows....haven't 'graduated' yet to wood shafts. The whole trad game is newer to me.
Thanks for the posts though.
J

[awbowman]

They are not quiet 600 grains, but I will be hunting this September with the following:

CE Heritage 150s (10 gpi) at 28.5" BOP
122 grain Razorhead glue-on tips (with bleeders)
I glue the head to a 100 grain steel adapter
Add a 50 grain brass insert
7" white reflectorized wrap, 3-5" sheild cut feathers for fletching.

I guess you might could go with a 100 grain brass insert and push it well over 600, but you may not get it spined correctly with a 27" DL.

BTW, I shoot a Black Widow SAG (precusor of PSR) 50#s at 25.5" DL.  I have NO RESERVATIONS in using this on elk.

Hope this helps.  Seems like the heavy hitters go for wood.

[bowisbest]

awbowman, THANKS that was the kind of suggestion I was looking for on the carbon side.  I was also looking at the CE Heritage for an arrow choice.  Do you think going with the CE heritage 250 is correct for my set up???  
Thanks
J

[awbowman]

Man I can't say enough about Heritages.  They are TOUGH!!!!!!! I see no need to ever shoot another arrow but CE.

If you go with the 250s, Stu's calculator says 150 gr BH w/ 100 grain insert cut about 29.5" long.  It's a place to start.

11.9 gpp and an FOC of 17.9%.  I'd say that's a heck of a combination.  They would be right over 600 grains also.


I'd give a hard look at a 160 gr Landshark and maybe get to cut the shaft a little.
Heck let me know how it turns out.

[Rich in CO]

My set is not 600 grains either but this is what I'm chasing Elk with

Morrison Shawnee Dakota 51@27
CE 150's 29 bop 50 grain brass inserts 150 grain Manus 4 blades total arrow weight is 510 grains
3-5in shield with 7in wraps. They are darts and hit where I'm looking

I have shot the 250's out of my set up @ the same length, with the same inserts & BH, but they where stiff and they came in @ 560 grains, so with a 100 grain insert, & maybe a heavier BH if needed you might be able to get the 250's to work, and might end up over 600 G's

[overbo]

IMO,shooting a 600gr+ arro w/ your bow will cost you trajectory.If you shoot this setup exclusively for period of time,you will over come your trajectory challenges.
500gr+ will do just fine.

[JJB2]

Easton FMJ's, prob 340 or 400 spine in your bow weight with 200-250 up front and a 50-75 HIT adapter should do the trick.  I'm going to be shooting a similar set up for elk myself this year.  Just waiting on my new zipper so I can bareshaft it.

[awbowman]

Agree with overbo.  I would stay in the 10-10.5 gpp and save some trajectory.  I am not about fast bows having left the compound world, but I do like a flattness in case I miss judge the yardage.  If your arrows fly true, you will have plenty penetration with a mid 500 grains.

[beyondmyken]

gold tip 35-55 spine, 100 gr brass insert, 250 grain BH will put you at about 630 geains with feathers and a wrap cap.

[TexasTrad]

If you want around 600 with that setup, I think you should be close with Beaman MFX 500 with a 100 grain brass insert and a 200 grain broadhead.   Leave them full length

[bowisbest]

Hey everyone,

Thanks a ton for all the suggestions, this gives me a great place to start and getting to tune my equipment.  Any other setups are much appreciated as well, I like all the perspectives.

[Morning Star]

28.5" Beman MFX Classics 400's.  100gr brass insert, 200 grain tip

[Rik]

My wife's arrows are 600 grains, 28 inches of Douglas Fir, with a 160-grain Ribtek, with three four-inch fletch. Her bow is 52 pounds at her 26-inch draw length.

She kills Big-bodied Idaho bulls dead with that combination, but her arrows never penetrate the other side.

If you are using carbons, just keep it over 600 grains, use a great two-blade head (preferably 160-grains or heavier) and you should be good to go.

Do not under-draw. At that weight, it's best to put every thing in your favor. Squeeze those shoulder blades man, squeeze those shoulder blades. Elk season only comes once per year. . .

[Greg Skinner]

I use 55-75 GT's cut to 28.5 with 100 grain brass inserts and 260 grain points out of a couple of r/d 52 - 53 lb at 27" bows.  They are a little more than the 600 grain (about 630) but fly extremely well and hit hard.  They also shoot great from a 56# HH Tembo and a 60# St. Charles Pacific yew, both of which are cut farther from center shot than the r/d's.

[Birdbow]

I killed a 1200# moose a couple years ago shooting a 54# @ 27" Hummingbird LB. The arrow was a CX Heritage 250 with a 50gr. brass insert, a Zwickey No Mercy single bevel on a 100 gr. steel insert. Total arrow weight was about 750. Penetration was to the fletches at 6 yds. as the bull was turning away from me. I believe at that range the arrow was still in some paradox and the moving animal "limited" penetration. 20 yd. recovery. Good luck!!

[Friend]

51 @ 28 (28" actual) w/1/8" cut past center

Victory HV 350…6.7 gpi -29.5” arrow...100 gn insert...300 gn point...615 gn-total... ~32.0% FOC

My FOC calcs are slightly higher than Stu’s due to fletching positioned 2.1” from nock throat

Note: These arrows are not grain finished

For your PSR, the set-up the following maybe a viable starting point: Victory HV 400…6.2 gpi -29.75” arrow...100 gn insert...300 gn point...601 gn-total... ~31.9% FOC

A 18 in 1 Rhinehart BH target is reportedly guarenteed for one year. I cut in half and then completely disintegrated mine in less than one month with my [email protected] gn...Big Jim 'Big 3's" and 32% Ultra-EFOC set-up.

The only draw back I have incurred is excessive target wear. Thought my Morrell Outdoor Range was invincible. I was wrong.

[BRITTMAN]

30 in. CX 250 , 100 grain insert , 145 tip . That is one TUFF set up !