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Author Topic: Back after Back injury.... some advise please  (Read 391 times)

Offline oldgriz

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Back after Back injury.... some advise please
« on: June 22, 2007, 02:07:00 PM »
I have a couple of herniated disks (lumbar region).... I refuse to allow the doctors to fuse them (the only answer I get from a bunch of docs)...
Since I have lost a lot of weight recently (and still have more to do), they are not bothering me as much and I am getting back to shooting..
I own three bows
Bear Magnesium TD 46#
Wing Chaparral 48#
Tom Cole Custom Longbow 54#
I draw 29"
I have been an archer since the dark ages and was at one time a very good target shooter (Rob might not agree with that LOL)...
I bought a Bowfit that goes from 34-50# and will be working with that in the house to bring my strength back up...
Does anyone have any other suggestions that will keep my from hurting myself other than just taking it easy and stopping when I start to feel pain or weakness when shooting.
I really need to get back into shooting... I miss it terribly and I feel that wandering the farm, stump shooting will help my mental and physical state... and most importantly my 9 yr old daughter wants to learn to shoot "like Daddy did"....
Tom Mullane
Bear Grayling Mag TD 60" 50#
Bear Grayling Mag TD 64" 37#
Wing Chaparell 60" 48#
Tom Cole Old Timer LB 68# 54#

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Re: Back after Back injury.... some advise please
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2007, 02:15:00 PM »
Speaking as someone who DID get the fusion (3 disks) in my lumbar region, the best thing you can do is to keep your "Core" muscles strong. You'll develop the strength to shoot by shooting. However, to keep your back from flaring up you need strong stomach, oblique and lower back muscles to keep your spine aligned. Easier said than done for this desk jockey  :banghead:
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Re: Back after Back injury.... some advise please
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 02:20:00 PM »
Well maybe it is time to start using that YMCA family membership we got so the little one can go swimming...
Tom Mullane
Bear Grayling Mag TD 60" 50#
Bear Grayling Mag TD 64" 37#
Wing Chaparell 60" 48#
Tom Cole Old Timer LB 68# 54#

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Re: Back after Back injury.... some advise please
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 03:41:00 PM »
I have lower back problems too (L3/L4) due to injury and arthritis. Swimming is good. I find that shooting, as long as I stick with closed or even stance, I am fine. If I go to an open or oblique stance that causes the back to twist at the hips.... I am looking for trouble. So I am careful that way as much as I can be.
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Re: Back after Back injury.... some advise please
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2007, 04:55:00 PM »
Good advice Steve, and the swimming sounds good too. I was gonna chime in on the stomach toning, but you guys are all over this one!

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Re: Back after Back injury.... some advise please
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2007, 07:08:00 PM »
College athletics, have had two back surgeries, and eventual training with a physical therapist who worked with Olympians.  Suggestion:  Lots of core work; i.e. sit-ups, if done wrong can be counter productive for those of us with bad backs. Your lower back must STAY in a safe position while doing these excercises or you are burning down a house to kill a fly. (Wish I had known this earlier when I began to have back issues)

To find the safe postion:  Lay on your back on the floor with knees up.  Arch your lower back to extreme (lumbar away from the floor). THEN press lumbar FLAT to the floor- feel those two EXTREMES- total arch to flat.  THEN sightly arch your lumbar to MIDWAY between those two extremes. Feel it, get use to that, lock your lumbar in that position.  That is the safe position.

SO- if you do a sit-up (or any excercise, lift weights, take things out of a car trunk, etc) you must keep your lower back in that safe position.  It takes deliberate concentration.  You will find that if you come up too far your lower back will want to push into the floor- Don't sit-up that far! The only way I can keep my back in this position is half a crunch.  For lifting things out of a car trunk I have to put my knee up on the bumper.  The whole point is to always keep you back in the safe position.

If your back was healthy you could sit-up with lumbar flat to the floor, allow it to move, etc.  but NOT for a damaged back-which you now have for the rest of your life.

This technique has brought me great strength and activity without continued damage. ANY activity I do; shooting, yard work, lifting, climbing, sitting for long stretches, etc.  I keep my back in this position- if I do- I have seldom, if ever have problems.  

Good Luck
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Re: Back after Back injury.... some advise please
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2007, 10:17:00 PM »
I cant add much of anything that hasnt allready been said here from other back challenged people.i did have 3 herniated disk about 5 years ago.I trained appropriatly and do the proper stretches to maintain flexibility and core strength..i still have flair ups but they last only for a spell.stretching is key for me.I came back from being about used up to doing hard core things that i thought i may never do again.Persistence and consistency in your exorcise priogram and diet is the key to good health and well being and quality of life!

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