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Author Topic: california miniumum draw length  (Read 710 times)

Offline bayhunter

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california miniumum draw length
« on: May 10, 2011, 09:49:00 AM »
Okay can someone help me translate the california regulations instead of stating a draw weight like 45lbs it says a bow has to be able to cast an arrow horizontally for 130 feet, what bow weight does this?  :dunno:

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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2011, 09:55:00 AM »
Horizontal or not, all hunting bow weights from 30# and up can cast an arrow 130 feet. To sum up, 130 feet is just 43.33 "yards".

I would imagine a 25# bow could easily cast an arrow horizontally for 130 feet (43.33 yards), but I wouldn't go bowhunting with it.
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2011, 10:01:00 AM »
No arrow at any speed below infinity stays horizontal for 130 feet, or any other distance, as long as gravity still works.
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2011, 10:29:00 AM »
so do you think a mid 40ish recurve shoting about a 10 gpi arrow would be  fine

Offline Jeff Strubberg

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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2011, 10:32:00 AM »
Horizontal as in 130 of horizontal travel, not a horizontal arrow track.  It's woreded that way to prevent someone shooting straight down out of a treestand 100 feet in the air and claiming that's 100 feet of travel.
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2011, 10:40:00 AM »
It's 130 yds!!

I just looked up the regs.

"No bow or crossbow may be used which will not cast a legal hunting arrow, except flu flu arrows, a horizontal distance of 130 yards."

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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 10:55:00 AM »
Mike is correct. No broadheads narrower than 7/8ths, and bow must be able to shoot an arrow 130 yards. No weight specifics...
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2011, 11:12:00 AM »
Yep looks right to me got them right here
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 11:41:00 AM »
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Mike is correct. No broadheads narrower than 7/8ths, and bow must be able to shoot an arrow 130 yards. No weight specifics...
Hey Beach hows it going. If im not mistaken and i could be the regs state that the broad head my not pass through a hole 7/8 inch in diameter.

I am to lazy to look it up so to all that need to know look it up before you take my word for it.
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Offline Eugene Slagle

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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 11:50:00 AM »
Sounds like here in Virginia.

•Broadhead widths must be at least 7/8-inch wide or expand upon impact to 7/8-inch.
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 11:50:00 AM »
bayhunter----if the the broadhead is sharp, and flies straight, and you hit em where your as supposed to, that setup will kill cleanly.
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2011, 11:54:00 AM »
Well i could not help my self had to look it up


"Bow and Arrow Defined: A bow is any device consisting of a flexible material having a string connecting its two ends and used to propel an arrow held in a firing position by hand only. Bow includes long bow, recurve or compound bow. A legal arrow is a broad head type blade which will not pass through a hole seven-eighths inch in diameter. Mechanical/retractable broad heads shall be measured in the open position. No arrow with an explosive head or with any substance which would tranquilize or poison any animal may be used."


Under:   IT IS ILLEGAL TO:

"Hunt with bow or crossbow that will not cast a legal hunting arrow, except flu-flu arrows, a horizontal distance of 130 yards. T14-354(f)"
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2011, 12:13:00 PM »
You know...I've never went out to see how far my arrow shoots. I wonder if a 45# with 4-5" feathers would do it....?

Seems sorta weird to classify equipment this way.

Funny how the "arrow" is defined only by the broadhead.
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2011, 12:29:00 PM »
That has got to be the dumbest archery law around.  How in the world would a field officer know or measure that one?  Just hunt with what you can shoot.  I am all for meeting the law, but when no one can measure it in the field you can't really meet it.
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2011, 01:21:00 PM »
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Originally posted by beachbowhunter:
Mike is correct. No broadheads narrower than 7/8ths, and bow must be able to shoot an arrow 130 yards. No weight specifics...
Hey Beach hows it going. If im not mistaken and i could be the regs state that the broad head my not pass through a hole 7/8 inch in diameter. [/b]
Means the same thing doesn't it?  :D
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2011, 02:32:00 PM »
i thought we in pa. had some stupidly wrote hunting laws but this one tops most.
remind me not to move to cali.

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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2011, 04:39:00 PM »
If it was me, I wouldn't worry about this law. Like someone once said, "Some laws are just made to be broken" and this is one of them.    :biglaugh:
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2011, 05:19:00 PM »
Stupid thing is, pretty much all 'proper' bows (ie; not solid glass kids bows) shooting 8-10GPP should be able to easily manage 130yds.
Heck back in England I regularly used to compete in 180yd clout shoots with a 32# recurve! My arrow trajectory was nowhere near the 45º 'optimum distance' angle. Even the kids shooting 18-24lb bows could manage the 120yd Kids Clout without much difficulty
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2011, 05:26:00 PM »
That's interesting Rob.
I guess I can be pretty darn certain I'd be good to go in Cali.

That does seem to be a really stupidly worded law that doesn't accomplish what it was intended to....to make sure hunters could dispatch game "humanely"..
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Re: california miniumum draw length
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2011, 05:38:00 PM »
that just doesnt make sense

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