gluing carbon arrow inserts

[Bear Heart]

I have had a heck of a time keeping my inserts on my carbon express heritage 250s.  Go to pull them out of a target and the insert and field point are gone.  What glue is best for this?  I have been cleaning the inside with alcohol before gluing. Should I be doing some other prep?

[bulldog18]

I prep mine with a bronze rifle bore brush and clean inside of shaft and outside of insert with denatured alcohol and glue with loctite super glue gel.

[abbatoys]

Goat Tuff glue is what I have used and no problems with it..Prep the shaft with either a shaft prep tool or like bulldog said a bore brush and then the denatured alcohol on a q-tip.

[JRY309]

The key is too properly prep the shaft and insert.I'll scratch up the inside with a brush and scratch up the insert with sandpaper.Then I'll clean everything with alcochol and let dry.Then I'll use a 2-part 24 hr. epoxy and then epoxy them in.A slow cure epoxy is alot stronger then the 5 minute stuff.Never had any problems doing it this way and haven't lost any inserts.And I have knock them back out with this epoxy in case I wanted to redo my arrows.

[scedvm]

I do mine exactly like bulldog18 above and they hold very well.

[Bear Heart]

the loctite doesn't get brittle?

[Flingblade]

I scratch the inside of the shaft with sandpaper wrapped around a nail then clean with alcohol (isopropyl kind - not my Jack) and use JB Weld to glue.  Has worked well for me.

[smokin joe]

I have been using Insert Iron with outstanding results.

[bsv]

I do mine, brass Inserts with the hot glue on Big Jim"s site. Works great
Burt

[JParanee]

2 part 5 minute epoxy   I dont even clean them no problems

[Rob DiStefano]

use *quality* slow set epoxy (NOT 5 minute epoxy), and do clean out the inside end of the carbon tube and the insert rifling.  mix the epoxy WELL - lotsa folks don't do this, and there's the first mistake.  allow to cure overnight.  put enuf goop on the insert so that some will ooze out, and do wipe that overflow onto the last 1/2" of the carbon tube.  with this method i've never had an insert come out of any shaft - carbon, aluminium or glass.

[Easykeeper]

Clean the inside of the shaft with sandpaper, do the same with the outside of the insert.  Wipe inside of shaft and outside of insert with acetone.  Glue with 24 hour epoxy.  

The only disadvantage of epoxy is you can't heat up the insert/tip to tweek the alignment of your broadheads, so you have to get it right the first time.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Easykeeper:
... The only disadvantage of epoxy is you can't heat up the insert/tip to tweek the alignment of your broadheads, so you have to get it right the first time.

nope, doesn't matter one bit with either type of insert ...

if the insert is 1pc (includes the point taper), you can use slow set epoxy for the insert and hot melt for the broadhead, and get the twin or four blade positioning just right.

i'd rather go with a screw-in insert that allows screw-in adapters.  adapters allow lots of tweakability for front end load.  same applies here for twin and four blade head alignment with the hot melt.

or just use a three blade, where there is no need for blade alignment and then you can use slow set epoxy for both the insert and adapter, which is what i do.  

[BOWMARKS]

I use hot melt and a glass of water. This way I can remove if I want. Never had any pull out on me,but thats me.

[katman]

If you are cleaning with alcohol use denatured or 90% isopropyl not 70%.

[Possum Head]

I use hot melt with no shaft or insert prep and very seldom encounter pull-outs and I shoot daily into targets that require considerable effort for removal.

[CJ Pearson]

I used Gorilla Glue on my last set and have been very pleased with it.

[mookie]

Kimsha Quick Stick hot melt has solved the problem I was having with inserts coming out.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Possum Head:
I use hot melt with no shaft or insert prep and very seldom encounter pull-outs and I shoot daily into targets that require considerable effort for removal.

i'd rather prep clean and have no pull-outs than do nothing and have rare occasion pull-outs.  just saying that an ounce of prevention ....

[kat]

I clean the inside with alcohol then use Loctite 380.  Just apply some on the insert and push it in the end of the arrow.
They don't come out.  If you are using brass inserts, you can heat the tip and insert, and they will come out without damage to the carbon arrow.  If you use aluminum inserts they are in to stay.