Arrow recipe needed please! (Lightweights need not apply!)

[robtattoo]

I'm needing to build a dozen arrows. Nothing odd there, you may think. The problem is, I haven't had to mess with arrows for a while now. I know the formula for all my bows & I can knock out a dozen in about an hour.
I've just got a hold of a Dan Quillian Bamboo Longhunter. Awesome bow, seems to shoot nicely, but I need some proper spined, well weighted (read; HEAVY) arrows.
Oh, the bow is 82# at my 31" draw. The Beeman MFX 340s that shoot out of all my other bows (62-66#) & weight 700gn are just, simply, too damned light.
Can someone whip me up a recipe for a nice heavy arra for this monster? I don't care what it's made from wood, carbon or aluminium, it's all good with me!

[WPAtrapper]

Going by Stu's chart a full length Easton FMJ Dangerous Game 250 with a 75gr insert and 125gr point should get you in the ballpark. Total arrow weight is 792 grains.Hope this helps.

[frank bullitt]

2219 alum. Rob! Stick some heavy points of your choice!

 The Longhunter, is pretty close to center cut!

[stickhorse]

Yep Rob 2219's.  Just so happens their is some in the St. Judes auction.(forum 3&4) LOL

[Tajue17]

82#  and needing somethign heavy?? I'd sling these for sure!

 http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/GrizzlyStik-Safari-Shafts-P6C5.aspx

[hunt it]

Rob,

I'm just working up some buff arrows for my trip with Andy and Mic. For 82# Shawnee dakota limbs. The FMJ Dangerous game shafts are looking/working good so far. I do have 6 - grizz safari shafts with 300gr up front cut 31" they are 1300gr total (3x50gr brass weights installed) - one big a$$ arrow - they fly great but I'm heading toward FMJ for my choice.

And yes we do have bass in the frozen north - we just have to ice fish for them! Actually I don't fish for rough fish such as bass/walleye/pike -I'm a died in the wool trout/salmon guy - everything else is for bow fishing far as I'm concerned.

[LITTLEBIGMAN]

wow was that Dan's personal bow? He shot a heavy  one if i recall correctly.

[Supercracker]

If you want to use wood try the hex shafts. I was able to make up nearly 900gr arrows using their pine shafts.

 http://www.whisperingwindarrows.com/

(PS:Got the shoulder working, I can shoot again!!!)

[JJB2]

FMJ Dangerous game shafts, heavy insert, heavy heads.

[robtattoo]

How do you think 2317s would work out? I can go to 300gn points pretty easily, possibly more than that.
I'm looking to end up with something like an 850-900gn finished arrow.

 

Originally posted by Supercracker:
If you want to use wood try the hex shafts. I was able to make up nearly 900gr arrows using their pine shafts.

   http://www.whisperingwindarrows.com/  

(PS:Got the shoulder working, I can shoot again!!!)

Howdy Shane!    

[Supercracker]

Wow. I shot them for a ling time and don't think I've really had a bad one.

[Bjorn]

I think you can rule out wood with those specs Rob.
You would need shafts longer than 33" and 115# spine. Probably not going to happen.

[Looper]

What about the super heavy AD Hammerheads?

[robtattoo]

I'm really trying to stay at the 'pauper' end of the arrow pricing spectrum, if I can!  :D

[Rob DiStefano]

premium surewood doug fir, full 32" long, 23/64", 110-115# spine, $36/dozen.  bob @ surewood will have no problem finding these raw shafts weighing in at nearly (or over!) 600 grains each.  load the front end up a LOT, these shafts can take it and are dead straight and baby butt smooth.  for more front end weight, internally foot with an iron nail, 60-100 grains.  slather on 3-4 coats of min-wax polyU to seal and you'll be good to hunt anything less than elephant (but might work on them, too!    :D    ). i can't talk highly enuf of surewood doug fir shafts!  imho, they are the highest standard for all woodies, bar none.

[Paul Mattson]

Another choice would be the Arrow Dynamic Super Heavy Traditional Hammerheads.  I had some of the proto types, but don't recall the over all wt.  I can check and get back to you if you are interested.  They are spined heavier and the wt is heavier than the AD Trad Hammerheads.

[amicus]

I have never tried it but I think some one has mentioned using a carbon arrow inside a alum arrow. Sounds like it would work and be on the less expensive side.

Gilbert

[KentuckyTJ]

Rob, when you get old and weak like me I'll be able to help you out.

[frassettor]

robtattoo, I'm just a little heavier then you, but not much..I shoot the CX 350's cut to 31" BOP, with a 100 brass insert, and a 260, and a 290 field point. Total arrow weight is 745-775..

I aso shoot 90-95#  Surewood Doug Fir arrows, cut to 31" , witha 190 field point. Arrow weight of 778..

[frank bullitt]

Gilbert is right on the carb in Alum. I thought of this also. I have put vapor/ Blackhawk carbon in a 2117, but never checked the spine or weight.

Back in the day, Tink Nathan and others were putting wood shafts in alum, for african game.

I have some ole Acme Ramin from the early 90's that spine over 100, 11/32 dia!