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Offline metsastaja

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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2011, 12:45:00 PM »
Just got off the phone with Ron LaClair at Shrew.
Prior to 2011 bows were cut 1/8 beyond center so -1/8
starting in 2011 they started to cut to center 0

Dave I included info in most recent excel I sent you.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2011, 02:14:00 PM »
Great thread guys. Good idea.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2011, 10:45:00 AM »
Here is the list as of this morning. Shrew and Zipper bows were confirmed by the bowyers yesterday.

If using Stu's calculator you need to account for the thickness of the strike plate material. example a bow cut to -3/16 with a +1/8 material on the strike plate would have a center cut of -1/16.


Bow Type
3Rivers Dalaa T/D Recurve   11/32
3Rivers Tomahawk 1/16
A&H ACS CX TD Longbow - 3/16
Abbott D/R Longbow 1/16
Acadian Woods Cajun Hunter
Acadian Woods Carbon Reflex Recurve - 3/16
Acadian Woods Tree Stick - 3/16
Allen Boice Liberty English 1/8
Ancient Spirits Cahokia 0
Apex Predator Cumberland +1/8"
Apex Predator Sapelo +1/8"
Apex Predator Ossabaw 0
Apex Predator Wassaw 0
Bateman R/D Longbow 0
Bear A or B Mag. Riser - 1/8
Bear AuSable longbow 0
Bear Cheyenne Recurve
Bear Grizzly (Current Prod.) - 1/8
Bear Grizzly (Old Model) 0
Bear Kodiak Hunter 0
Bear Kodiak Mag - 1/8
Bear Minuteman - 3/16
Bear Montana 0
Bear Super Kodiak 0
Bear TakeDown A or B Riser 0
Belcher Patriot Recurve - 1/8
Ben Pearson Palomino 0
Ben Pearson Mustang 0
Big Jim's Buffalo Bow 0
Big Jim's Thunder Child 0
Bill Stewart MultiCam Super Hunter - 1/4
Bill Stewart MultiCam Trad Hunter - 3/16
Black Widow PCH - 1/8
Black Widow PL 0
Black Widow PMA - 3/16
Black Widow PSA - 3/16
Black Widow PSR 0
Black Widow PAX
Blacktail Recurve - 3/16
BOB LEE RECURVE -3/16
Bob Lee 1-piece Recurve - 1/16
Bob Lee Stick 0
Bob Lee Takedown Longbow - 3/16
Bob Lee Takedown Recurve - 3/16
Border Black Douglas - 3/16
Brackenbury Takedown Longbow - 3/16
Brackenbury Takedown Recurve - 3/16
Browning 50 Cobra I 0
Browning Wasp - 1/8
Caribow Peregrine - 1/16
Carpathian (CTA) Red Stag 4/41
Centaur Carbon Elite 0
Centaur Longbow 0
Checkmate Hunter - 1/16
Crow Creek Black Feather 0
Dale Dye Good Medicine - 1/8
Dan Quillian Longhunter 1/8
Dry Ridge Longbow 0
Dryad Bush Wacker 0
Dryad Orion Longbow 0
Eaglewing Archery  cut to customer specs
Great Northern Bushbow 1/8
Great Northern Critter Gitter 1/8
Great Northern Critter Gitter Special 1/8
Great Northern Fireball 0
Great Northern Ghost 1/8
Great Northern Super Ghost 0
Great Northern Trad Longbow 1/8
Great Plains SR Swift Black Hawk - 1/4
Great Tree Volcano 0
Greatree Dearslayer - 3/16
Habu Death Ader - 1/16
Habu Vyperkahn - 1/8
28)Harrelson LB------- to center
Holm-Made Osprey 0
Holm-Made River Runner 0
32)Howard Hill Wesley- +3/16
Horne's Brush Bow 0
Hoyt Buffalo Recurve - 3/16
Hoyt Excel Riser
J.K. Traditions Kanati 0
JD Berry Appollo 0
JD Berry Renaissance 1/8
Kanati   0
Kohannah Kurve 0
Kota Prairie Fire 0
Leon Stewart r/d Longbow 0
Leon Stewart Recurve 0
Leon Stewart Slammer 0
Lost Creek Judge 0
Lost Creek Life-Ender 0
Lost Creek N.A.T 0
Martin Bamboo Viper 0
Martin Dream Catcher - 1/8
Martin Hatfield - 1/8
Martin Hunter - 1/8
Martin Jaguar - 3/4
Martin Savanna 0
Martin Serengeti 0
Morrison Mini-14 ILF Riser Longbow - 3/16
Morrison Mini-14 ILF Riser Recurve - 3/16
Pearson Hunter - 1/8
Pearson Predator - 1/16
30)Pittsley Predator-- -3/16
Predator Classic Recurve - 1/8
Predator Hunter - 1/16
Quinn stallion - 5/16
Ragim Black Bear 0
Ragim Impala 0
RER Arroyo -3/16
RER XR t/d  -3/16
Rose Oak Prowler T/D - 1/8
Rose Oak Super Wildcat - 1/8
Rose Oak King Panther - 1/8
Samick Black Onyx - 1/16
Samick Legend 1/8
Samick Red Stag 0
Samick Sage - 3/16
34)Savage SS---------- -3/16
Schafer Silvertip Longbow - 1/16
Schafer Silvertip Recurve - 3/16
Schafer TD LB 0
Shrew Bows prior to 2011
Shrew Bows manufactured 2011+
Shakespeare Purist X-4 0
Sky Sky Hawk 1991
6) Stalker------------ -3/16
Tall Tines recurve
Thunderstick Ram Horn 0
TimberHawk Falcon 1/8
Toelke Whip 1/16
1) Toelke Whip---------to center
TradTech Galaxy ILF Recurve 0
TradTech Recon ILF Recurve 0
Treadway Black Swamp 1/16
Wallace TD--------- -3/16 Royal LB--
Wapiti Recurves (all models) 0
Wes Wallace Recurve - 3/16
Zipper SXT -1/8
Zipper ZSR -1/8
Zipper Standard -3/16
Zipper Extreme Riser -3/16
Zona T/D Recurve 2009  0
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2011, 11:46:00 AM »
I have turned the list into a pdf document. click on this link    Bow Center Cuts PDF
Depending on your computer set up you should be able to either open it with Adobe reader or save it to your computer.


Here is the link to   Stu Miller Dynamic Spine Calculator  page. To use the calculator you need to have Microsoft Excel or the Open Office spread sheet program on your computer.

here is the direct link for the   DSC instruction manual in PDF .  has great information and photos on measuring center cut, strike plate, internal and external footings and more.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2011, 12:30:00 PM »
I have a question. When you say 1/8" past center or -1/8", does that mean the bow is 1/8" wider than if the bow were cut in half right down the middle, or does it mean it is 1/8" narrower than if the bow were cut in half down the middle?

Dumb question I know, but the -1/8" is throwing me off. I always thought that 1/8" past center would be a bow that is 1/8" wider than center cut, but to my mind that would be +1/8".

Somebody set me straight.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2011, 12:55:00 PM »
If you were to mark the middle of the limbs and then look at where the string hits the limbs the string would be 1/8" to the right of the middle of the limb(if it is a RH'd bow). So cut to center or "0" would mean the string and the middle of the limbs would line up perfectly.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2011, 02:39:00 PM »
When I bought my Morrison Shawnee from Bob Morrison, he told me it was cut 3/16" past center.  FYI,  Steve
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2011, 03:09:00 PM »
What about Bamabows...any info on how they are cut?
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2011, 03:46:00 PM »
Toelke Super D cut to center. When I get home I'll check my recurves.  Great topic some good info here.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2011, 03:49:00 PM »
Perhaps this will help with the plus minus issues.


 
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2011, 04:06:00 PM »
Here is some more help.  I just took this from Stu's directions for the DSC.  Bit fuzzy due to photo limits

 
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2011, 04:07:00 PM »
Perfect. There is a lot of info. in Stu's calculator directions that I think most don't take the time to read.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2011, 10:20:00 AM »
Acadian Woods Custom Classic recurve -1/8
Robertson Purist longbow  +1/16
Toelke 2pc recurve        -1/16

If you are having a problem measuring your bow there is a great drawing in the "Instruction" section of the calculator, using a piece of string taped to your bow then aligning your bow string and the taped string to give you your measurement.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2011, 10:39:00 AM »
Has anyone measured one of the old Bear Kodiaks....say a 59 or 60?  Just curious what you have determined to enter in the calculator.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2011, 11:25:00 AM »
Welch Dakota Pro Hunter -1/8
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2011, 12:00:00 PM »
Glen I am not going to include since you have custom.. I consider that a user request.

Acadian Woods Classic CUSTOM they will do custom center cuts on request from -3/16 to 0
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2011, 12:06:00 PM »
Black Widow:
PMA, PSA,&PTF= -3/16
PCH=========== -1/8
PL&PSR========  0
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2011, 09:07:00 AM »
Got it Snag.

CORRECTION the 3rivers Dalaa is -11/32 not + as posted. Will fix with next release.
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2011, 09:56:00 AM »
Here is the most recent list of Bow center Cuts.
added some more bows and fixed the Dalaa.

   BOW CENTER CUT DATA  as OF JUNE 23
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Re: How is YOUR bow shelf cut?
« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2011, 09:58:00 AM »
Good work guys. A good resource for the bowhunting community!
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