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Author Topic: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead  (Read 443 times)

Offline pamike

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Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« on: July 03, 2011, 09:37:00 AM »
What 2 blade heads have the best flight?  I prefer screw on heads and I have tried multiple heads with not alot of luck.  Zwickey style heads (solid face) have not been consistent.  I have found that 4 blade slick tricks fly great, but I not had luck with 2 blade heads.  I am willing to try a couple more, but before I spend a ton of money i thought i better get some help.

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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2011, 09:41:00 AM »
Its odd that you cannot get a zwickey to fly good. IMO they are one of the best there is.

I would start looking at the set up you are shooting. I would think that your arrow and bow are not tuned togather. Did you bareshaft?

Could you please provide us with complete set up and specs so that can be looked at first?
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 09:44:00 AM »
Mike -
I've never had problems with Zwickey, Magnus or most any other two blade heads. What is your set up?
What is a 4 blade slick trick?
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 09:44:00 AM »
Sounds to me like you may have a tuning issue with your setup. I've never seen a two blade head that wouldn't fly well out of a well tuned bow/arrow combo unless the head was crooked because of a problem from an insert/adapter installed off center.
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 09:46:00 AM »
I have both zwickeys and stos and I like both...I learned the hard way that if they are not seated perfectly straight they will not fly consistent...you can spin them on your hand or a table and if the arrow wobbles any then the head my be slightly crooked...hope this helps?
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 09:49:00 AM »
jamesh76 is on track...  if your set up is wrong your blade choice won't matter much.

I personally use a helical fletch with a single bevel head.... right wing fletch with right wing bevel or left wing fletch with left wing bevel...  I like the idea of spin and I think it improves flight...  IMO
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 09:54:00 AM »
There are a lot of good ones and if your broadheads are mounted to spin true and your setup is truly tuned,any should fly well.

If you are mounting glue on heads I would highly recommend making a spinning jig.Pictured is the one I use but you can make a simple wood one with V blocks instead of rollers.This is way more precise than the way I used to spin and eyeball them.

The tuning method I use is found at  www.bowmaker.net

I'm currently using 200 gr Grizzlies and they fly very well but have to be mounted properly and tuned.I recheck for spin after missing or hitting an animal.

If you like screw in broadheads,there is a thread on the new one by VPA.It is CNC machined out of a solid bar of steel and they are known for high quality.

I would bet you could get those Zwickeys to fly really well if they were spinning properly and tuned for your bow.
 

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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 09:54:00 AM »
Mike take a look at the ne Werewolf blades by Eclipse. They are just coming out but they look like a hell of a head for a screw on 2 blade. Are you spin testing yor heads? 2 blades should be about the easiest blade to get flying good. If you are using carbons or aluminum arrows with glue ons you have to remeber there is three seperate components that may be causeing some misalignment. One you have your blade, 2 you have your threaded outsert, 3 you have your insert a lot of little adjustments are needed and the only way is to spin test. Does that make sense. I also always true up the face of my arrow. If you have all this correct then you can look elsewhere like arrow spine. But if your not true with your arrow it will be impossible to rule out other issues. Hope this helps. But by choseing a machined broadhed that is a screw on will help with trueing up.
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 10:06:00 AM »
STOS and Zwickey and Ecllpse fly as goof as any and that means perfect.

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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 10:09:00 AM »
Similar experience w/Zwickey screw-ins on aluminums. MOF, several 2-blade & multi-blade heads planed, dipped, & darted bad before I discovered spin testing. Balanced heads will fly straight like balanced wheels on a car. Guarantee not the bh's fault. PM for more.
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 10:13:00 AM »
tune the BH.. If Your using wood shafts, heat the head and tune it get a little.. Let it cure and shot it, If it still isn't flying right re-peat. With Alumn and carbons turn the insert and do the same as with the wood...

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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 10:17:00 AM »
I totally agree shot zwicky's of over 20 years never seen one that would'nt fly. You have to have and inlinement or set up issue.
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 10:31:00 AM »
If your buying screw in heads, it may be the glue junction of the insert and broadhead is off. Heat it up, and re do it yourself
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 10:51:00 AM »
setup and/or tune is poor... I regularly tune 200 grain ACE 2 blades to fly on wooden arrows.. no reason that they wouldn't fly well on a carbon if the spine is correct for the bow, your release is clean, your nock height is correct and the BH is straight to the shaft..
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 10:52:00 AM »
I have accurately spin tested. Just simple check on hand. Since slick tricks fly - I bet the 2 blade heads I have were not built straight. I think I am going to find some one piece (wo blade heads and spin test first.

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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2011, 12:43:00 PM »
That was supposed to say NOT accurately spin tested.
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2011, 12:53:00 PM »
Any well made 2 blade should fly very well, but I prefer a Magnus Stinger.
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2011, 01:02:00 PM »
a wide 2blade that flys good= zephyr sasquach
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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2011, 01:30:00 PM »
I`ll take all the crooked Zwickeys you have ...RC

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Re: Recommendations on 2 blade Broadhead
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2011, 02:17:00 PM »
A simple check in the hand isn't nearly as accurate as a spinning jig.It can detect a point off 1/64" and show you exactly where it is off.I spun them for decades but the jig showed me they weren't as precise as I thought.I still think the Zwickeys should work if the setup is tuned.

I tiny little vented broadhed may fly OK when tune is off.A larger,solid blade broadhead will point out that something is wrong.People tune stone points to fly well, as well as large 1 1/2" 3 blades.If not properly tuned,penetration will suffer,as well as accuracy.A lot of people have great luck with Zwickeys.

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