woodsman, slick trick vs zwickey

[pamike]

I am still trying to decide on broadheads for my setup.  I am shooting a 43# PMA with CX Heritage shafts and I am a little concerned about penetration.  I have had good success with the slick tricks and accuracy from this setup, but was recommended to shoot two blades for penetration.  I have started shooting the zwickeys and when setup correctly I am able to get accuracy with them.  But they seem to be real touchy, everything must be perfect.  Not the case with the slick tricks (much more forgiving.

Woodsman just seems like another option to try....

Do I really have to worry about penetraton with any of these heads from this setup?

Mike

[Rob DiStefano]

what critters are you hunting?  hopefully only deer or lesser animals, and not hogs or tougher hide game.  

if i hadda hunt deer with a bow that truly held at 43#, i'd want a long, not-so-wide twin blade (many choices) or a tri-blade such as the woodsman, elite, or vpa ... and 11gpp mass arrow weight at the least.  NOT SLICK TRICKS!

personally, i would think about holding 50# or more, if possible.  light holding weight bows and heavy arrows equate to large trajectories and that limits the effective kill range distance.  i wouldn't go beyond 13-15 yards if i hadda hold 43#.  ymmv.

[Bails]

Never heard of slick tricks being used through a trad bow before , is that possible ???

[Rob DiStefano]

those slick tricks are NOT for trad bows!

[Swamp Yankee]

Slick Tricks look a lot like the Muzzys I've used with recurves in the past with no problem on whitetails.  I don't see why you couldn't use them with your setup as long as the arrows are relatively heavy.  I'd chose the cut on contact model over the tricor tip.  Lots of easy to tune BETTER choices out there (Woodsman and the like 3 blades) though.

[Hoyt]

I would think due to the steep angle on Slick Trick blades you wouldn't get much penetration with 43lbs recurve.

[ChrisM]

For me the Zwickey are the easiest to tune and are very forgiving.  I use to use slick trick on my compound and liked them because they tuned easily but I would not recommend them for a trad bow of that weight.  You may look into the Muzzy phantoms as an option.

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Originally posted by Bails:
Never heard of slick tricks being used through a trad bow before , is that possible ???

I know of two traditional bowhunters (one personally) who have used them quite successfully on animals up to and including tule elk. Neither guy shoots over 50 pounds. Personally, I would opt for some additional tuning and the Zwickeys, but that's because I've had great results with them in the past.

[Rob DiStefano]

any time i see a "broadhead" with a chiseled field point tip, i KNOW it's not for stickbows.  ymmv.

[Stinger]

Not all Slick Tricks have the chiseled point.  I'm guessing he is talking about the Razortrick, which is a cut on contact head and does quite nicely with trad gear.

[Rob DiStefano]

though the razortrick doesn't have that 'wheel bow point', it's a stubby creature that still smacks of wheels and cams. yuk.

with so many real coc trad broadheads to choose, i see no reason to entertain companies and vendors that pander to the non-trad side of bowhunting.

[Rob W.]

Are you talking about the razor tricks? If I was worried at all about how sharp I could get the other two broadheads I would go with razor tricks in a heartbeat. That said my choice would be a zwickey for that setup. I shot woodsmans with a light setup when I started and my sharping ability wasen't great. Recovered both deer I shot with that setup but sharp zwickeys make two holes.

[Ric O'Shay]

Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
though the razortrick doesn't have that 'wheel bow point', it's a stubby creature that still smacks of wheels and cams. yuk.

with so many real coc trad broadheads to choose, i see no reason to entertain companies and vendors that pander to the non-trad side of bowhunting.

Absolutely!

[BowMIke]

I shot an antelope at 13 yards with a Slick Trick 125 grain head with a 55 lb recurve. It got the top of the heart and both lungs, but failed to exit the far side. It did the job, but could have been better.
In comparison I shot a 2 1/2 year old whitetail buck at 13 yards with a 125 grain 4 blde Stinger and had complete penetration at the same type of hit. Arrow exited the far side on a heavier animal.
In my opinion the steep blade angle of the Slick Trick is not the most favorable for Trad shooters.

[Stinger]

While I said the Razortricks will work.  I have some and have shot them, but I'm like BowMike and shoot the 2-blade Stingers and have had good success with them on whitetails with a similar light setup.

[JoeM]

I've always looked at it like this, I want a BH that slides into an animal not slams into it.  I always felt BH's with steep angles and short stubby ferrules eat up a lot of energy on impact because they don't slide into the animal they slam. Just my opinion.  Joe

[Orion]

Zwickeys are among the best flying heads around, particularly the eskimos.  If they seem sensitive, there's a good possibility that your form needs improving.  

[toehead]

I would get something you can sharpen and keep sharp.  no doubt Zwickeys are great heads but have you ever tried to get one sharp?  Same with woodsmen.  If I were shooting the same set up you mentioned my first choice would be a Magnus Stinger 2 or 4 blade.  My second choice would be a STOS sharpened on a KME sharpener.  I have no experience with Slick Tricks.

[smokin feathers]

I have killed tons of meat with the slicktricks and shot everyone of them. But i choose magnus stingers for a head thats already good and sharp and flies great(just as good as a slicktrick even at over 300fps out of my customers bows) out of a light weight stick bow.

[JamesKerr]

I would go with the woodsman as it will penetrate like a 2 blade even in moderately heavy bone but leaves a better blood trail.