Going a little old school

[abbatoys]

I have a Bear Kodiak made probably in the 80's. It is 62 lb @ 28" with no fast flight string. I bare shafted a 30 inch 2117 with 145 gr head and it was perfect time and time again. I am happy because I have a bunch of em stored up (Autum Org). I plan on shooting 145 gr Bear heads too. I fletch one and it doesnt fly as perfect as I would like. I grab a 2114 cut at 29" and it is a lazer. I know that is too light of an arrow for hunting. Curious if there is a better aluminum shaft out there for me.??? Thanks, Scott

[KHALVERSON]

scott
maybe try a 2018
good weight and tough to boot
that was my shaft of choice when i shot  high 50 low 60# weights with 145 up front

[JimB]

If your 2117's are too stiff,3Rivers has 100 gr brass adapters to fit them (same as .400 Gamegetters) That may weaken them enough that you can still use your Autumn Orange ones.

A lot of people would kill for those orange shafts and the inserts aren't super expensive.I think it would be worth an experiment.100 grs up front should get you close and I think,close to 10 grs per pound of bow weight.Maybe someone knows exactly.

[Night Wing]

You didn't say what point weight you were shooting with the 2114 or the overall arrow weight of the 2114 arrow when you shot it, but a 2114 isn't a light arrow for hunting if it's GPP (grains per pound) is at least 9.00 and above.

When I think of a light arrow, I think of an 8.00 GPP (grains per pound) arrow.

[JimB]

There is about 15# difference between those two shafts.Stu's calculator says the 100 gr insert vs standard would weaken the 2117 by 14 #.You might have to play with a bare shaft or just shoot the broadheads and if it happened to be that close,you could trim a little shaft length.

[Bow Bum]

When I shot 2117's out of my 45#@28 K-Hunter drawn 29.25" I needed 175-200Gr in front of a 30" arrow.

Your bareshafting should tell you that you are very close. I think I'd cut the arrow down a little and try it again.

Kinda depends on you DL though.

Regards,

Brian

[abbatoys]

I was shooting a 125 gr head with the 2114..I have some old camo ones I can mess with a bit...Was thinking a 2016 or 2018 would work too, and if I recall a 2177 isnt too far off from a 2018. I know I am real close, but do like an arrow that flies straight...Thanks, Scott

[Night Wing]

I think you're over looking one arrow spine.

A 2018 (.464) is much closer to a 2213 (.458) than it is to a 2117 (.407). A 2213 will give better arrow trajectory and speed too.

Something to think about.

[snakebite]

If the 2117's shot fine bare shaft and they fly a little funny once you put the feathers on, just rase your nock an 1/8 to 3/16 and give those feathers a little more room to clear.

[RM81]

makes me think of nock height as well.  Maybe your getting some contact off the riser/shelf with one of your feathers.