VPA "Penetrator" 300 gr. 2 Blade

[tradtusker]

From What iv heard in time there will possibly be Glue on's.

As for the Wider width Ray addressed it and it would require a larger stock size of steel, which would increase the Cost of the finished product.

There is no doubt these will be on the front of my Buff arrow's Allan.
Like i showed you with the 300gr 3 blade VPA's the Strength and Overall Quality in Unmatched, and you'r getting all that for a great price IMO  There are heads out there as you well know that run at 3 to 4 times the cost and will still not match these.

As for the Deflection upon impact it was/is the biggest cause of failure. In my opinion you do not want any at all!! You want the tip to bite and penetrate exactly and immediately were it first contacts the rib. Any skid or deflection and you'v just lost Huge amounts of energy. You can not hope for it to skid and find a gap or thinner section of rib, for the buff to pretty much are going to have to go through rib, so you need a set-up and braodhead like this VPA that is capable of just that.

[Gary Logsdon]

Andy, I just gave my local meat processor a call - who happens to also be my uncle, and requested a scapula and set of ribs from the next beef he processes.  Many times the shoulder bone is lost in the process of cutting up roasts, however he indicated that he would get me what I need this week when they actually bone out a large beef. While these "green targets" aren't exactly cape buffalo heavy, they will at least give some indication as to the performance of the new 300 grain head when striking heavy bone, muscle, and connective tissue.  Stay tuned . . .

[foudarme]

In France we were a few waiting for a wider Bh, something like the abowyer large bonehead (1.5" / 2.3/8")...there are ever plenty of tough 1/3 Bh on the market, why to buy one of more for almost 3 times the price of some others, should it kill better? we are a little bit disappointed....on my well tuned bow the Ab large bone head have a beautiful flight so it worthes any penny you spend for it...

[tradtusker]

I have a Buffalo shoulder blade here Gary, ill put one through it when i get them over here.

If you can Gary, try a few shots on the shoulder at about a 45' angle.

[hybridbow hunter]

Despite a heavier cost, VPA should think about a wider 300 gr head. Any time your arrow pass completely through a game (and sometimes goes several paces aways) it is a big waste of energy which could be given to a wider broadhead for added letality.

I am a happy user of Big Jim VPA 3 blades despite their heavy cost. Those wide Big Jim VPA are expensive ,yes, but they are the only serious choice for a bowhunter looking for a wide solid multiblade broadhead.

IMO, a wider 300 gr 2 blade could really find a good market (for non-buffalo hunters or those bowhunters using 55+# bow on North American or European game) because there is not a big choice and thus price could be more "accepted".

A 5$ 145 gr Eclipse BH (1 5/16 " width) on a 1$ 125 gr stell adaptator or a 4$ 200 gr ACE super express (1 7/16") on a 1$ 100 gr stell adaptator will give me a bigger hole and wound (and no significant BH weakness) for most of the game on Earth so why should i go for these expensive 1 1/8" VPA?
 If a 1,5" 2 blade VPA is on the market, i pay more BUT i get a bigger hole.

[Pat B.]

Wish there were buffalo running around over here in our deer woods....  Well, maybe not !

[amar911]

My 250 grain 2 blade VPA Penetrators just arrived today. They look great, but I now am convinced that for buffalo I want the 300 grain version, mainly to have a longer head with a lesser angle on the blades. I also agree with Andy that for very heavy animals like buffalo, a tip with a less steep angle would probably work better. The 250 grain will do very well for anything up to a very large beast like a buffalo, and the more angled tip will be stronger and hold up better to abuse when the head is not required to penetrate through as much flesh.

These new VPAs appear to be very well made and durable. I am looking forward to putting them to the test.

Allan

[rayzor150]

These 300s are about 1/4" longer than the 250s.  3.1"/ 1 1/8" = 2.755 ratio.  Blades about .067 as I recall.  They actually have a couple thou reverse taper...That will help penetration.

[rayzor150]

Will be putting the 300s up for presale on rayzor-vpa.com soon. As far as glue ons go, there will likely be a couple.  Length will vary on weight as with the others.  Rockwell hardness is 50 like the Terminators.  As written on several posts before, we are a custom manufacturer. We will make whatever someone wants and even brand name them for you. Those wide heads are doable at a cost.  This is what we brought out so as that we can use the same material we use for the Terminators.  The 300s are going to cost a little more than the others due to additional cost we incurred to produce them and the presale prices on all of them will go up a little once we have them retail packaged. Buying 1 1/4", 1 3/8" to 1 1/2" stock will run the price up to $55-70 at retail per 3 pack and that's if we are able to run and sell 100+ packs (per variation). Reduce the volume and up the price.  All the programming and set up time is the same for 1 pack as it is for 1000. If you want to purchase 100+ packs outright your price will obviously be much less. than that.

[Gary Logsdon]

VPA just sent me one of the first 300 grainers "fresh off the press". It hasn't been heat treated, painted, or Teflon coated yet, but even in it's "naked" state sure looks great!

[Gary Logsdon]

Here is a photo comparing the 250 gr. I tested (same head) to the unfinished 300 grain received today.

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[Jwilliam]

Great looking broadhead    


Bill

[amar911]

I like it! When can I order some?

Allan

[tradtusker]

Thanks for the pics Gary

300gr looks great ill be taking them back to South Africa with me at the end of the year.

There are no weaknesses in these broadheads, the guys at VPA have covered all the angles.

[amar911]

Originally posted by tradtusker:
There are no weaknesses in these broadheads, the guys at VPA have covered all the angles.

Glad you approve, Andy. What do you think about the "angle" of the tip? Is it pointed enough for you to think it is just right, or do you wish it was more pointed? We still need to figure out a time to talk soon about our plans.

Allan

[Gary Logsdon]

I shot the 300 last night and it flew beautifully for me out of a 60 pound bow.  My arrow is a 31" Axis "N-Fused" 340 with three 5" helical fletching (approx. 610 grs).  I intially shot the arrow with a 300 grain field point to tune, which luckily didn't take very long.  When I screwed in the 300 VPA it spun perfectly as usual.  My test shots were into a solid black broadhead target so I could pick up the flight more easily.  PERFECT, tight spin of yellow feathers upon release. The one I shot hasn't been heat treated, painted, etc. so all I did was shoot it into foam. When I get the finished heads I will slam one into a beef scapula at an angle Andy! The 300s will be in my quiver this fall!

[Gufunk]

Where can we buy these?

[Gary Logsdon]

The first run was just sent for heat treatment.  I'll ask them to make a post with purchasing info.

[rayzor150]

rayzor-vpa.com will be selling them until we get the retail packaging nailed down.  As noted earlier in the post they are going to be a little more expensive due to the increased manufacturing price.  Presale/pre retail packing price will be $45.99.  Remember Tragang members get free shipping.  Enter coupon code: tradgang at checkout.  I am going to post them to the store late this evening when I get a chance. They will be pre-sales for the first run which will be shipping in approx 2 weeks, as will the second run of the other weights. They will be first come -first serve.  Open orders on the store front will be shipped in the order received.  The next run will wont be available for shipment for approximately a month after.

[rayzor150]

Also, I wanted to correct myself on the ratio posted earlier.  Gary is right.  3.1 overall length.  Not sure what I was thinking there.