Originally posted by looper: I know what you mean. The last time I was in Bass Pro, I asked to look at a couple of different recurves and longbows they had on the rack behind the counter. The kid I asked said: "Oh, those are antiques, we just have them up there for show." I said, "I guess that means you don't have any cedar shafts, then, huh?" He says, "I don't know of that brand." Nice.