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Offline stack

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newbie here
« on: August 09, 2011, 02:03:00 PM »
Hello all, Newbie to the forum here and it looks like it has what I am looking for as I am just getting back into hunting with a recurve. So the question I have is, I am shooting a 60" recurve drawing 64# at 29" which is my draw length, What should the length and weight of my arrow be? I am shooting cedar arrows. As for the last 35 years I have been shooting compound I know that my arrows are just in front of my riser but the arrows I am shooting thru the recurve are quite a bit longer. I tried cutting them down and it didn't work well at all they flew all over the place and was pretty scary.

thanks for your help
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 02:43:00 PM »
Welcome stack! sounds like your arrow spine is way off.
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 02:49:00 PM »
Spine weight is 65 to 70 shaft weight is 500 grains raw. Using 125 grain tip 3 5" left helical feathers.

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 02:54:00 PM »
Really, as long as they are long enough, worry more about flight quality than length.  The back of the point doesn't HAVE to dang near or touch your hand at full draw.  It's okay to have a bit of arrow sticking out in front of the bow.  

As far as weight goes, at 64 pounds you can easily handle a 640ish grain arrow.  A general starting point is ten grains per pound.  I typically go over that a bit.  Main thing though is to get it tuned well so that the flight is good.  A longer arrow will need stiffer spine, all else being equal, while a shorter arrow will need weaker spine.  At 64 pounds and a 29 inch draw, you'll need to start with at least 70ish spine shafts, and probably more if you have a very heavy point at all.  Again, general rule.  Nothing set in stone here.  Different things work for different folks.
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »
How were they flying before you cut them down? Might want to go back to the longer arrow.
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 04:04:00 PM »
I have gone back to the original length of arrow. They seem to be flying pretty well now. I was just wondering if length mattered and it seems that longer is better in this case. I just need to really get this tuned in as my son and I are thinking about Co for elk next year so I have alot of work ahead of me. This old dog has alot of new tricks to learn.

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 05:05:00 PM »
Welcome to Tradgang.

Enjoy your journey along with the rest of us.

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 05:20:00 PM »
Welcome from Arkansas! Don't worry about em being a littlke long if they shoot good. At least I don't, adds a little weight.
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 05:30:00 PM »
Welcome!!!   :archer2:
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 05:38:00 PM »
Thanks for the warm welcome and all the info.

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 09:29:00 PM »
Hi there-Hap

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 09:32:00 PM »
Stack,

Welcome to the Gang.... This is the good Gang...

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 09:34:00 PM »
Welcome  :wavey:

Offline USN_Sam1385

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 09:38:00 PM »
How does that 64# pound bow feel weight wise??

Heck of a lot to pull after 35 year break.

Don't be shy in answering that question.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 10:01:00 PM »
Welcome!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2011, 08:59:00 AM »
Stack, I have a 29 1/2" draw, and shoot a recurve a bit heavier than yours. When I shoot wood shafts, I require a spine weight MUCH heavier than the actual draw weight of my bow.

Example: At my draw lenght my draw weight is 73 lbs. If I am going to get a 30 1/2" wood shaft to fly good, the spine weight must be up around ninety pounds or more.

64 lbs and 29 inch draw makes for a very potent set-up. I`m surprised that a longer shaft would perform better than a shortened version, if they are spined for 65-70.

What brand/model bow do you have? And where in Michigan are ya`.

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2011, 09:13:00 AM »
How long have you been shooting trad? Split finger or 3-under? Glove or tab? Have you bareshafted your setup? Adjusting the fistmele & nock set point can dial in your arrow flight. If you used a release w/cmpnd the change to fingers is very different. This is the place. Welcome.
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2011, 10:01:00 AM »
Welcome!   :campfire:
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Re: newbie here
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2011, 01:09:00 PM »
USN Sam 1385 64# is not to bad to pull just have to work the muscles back in for it.

Bonebuster I'm in the
Linden area just south of flint I am shooting a Great Northern Ghost. It shoots well I was kinda wondering about arrow length and weight.

Straitera, Just started back shooting trad last year haven't been real serious untill this year.I am shooting a tab split finger. I did shoot release w/ my compound but I did start with fingers. When I first started bow hunting I was shooting a Herters 45# recurve and did actually shoot a deer with it but then went thru the whole compound thing including shooting 3D shoots and all that stuff. Now it is time to get back to the basics and just get out and enjoy my time in the woods. The hunt is the thrill, the kill is secondary to me anymore.It is all about spending time enjoying the outdoors more.

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Re: newbie here
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2011, 07:18:00 PM »
Welcome
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