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Author Topic: Pass-throughs????  (Read 995 times)

Offline 3Feathers

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Pass-throughs????
« on: September 06, 2011, 05:57:00 PM »
How many of you get pass-throughs with wood?How do they compare with carbon and aluminum?I know you have to put the arrow in the right place,but trying to get a idea.This will be my first time
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Offline hvyhitter

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 06:27:00 PM »
No difference between wood and aluminum with 500gr+ arrows and snuffers....bows were 40# to 70#.......
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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 06:30:00 PM »
heavy arrow cut on contact broadhead shes all good.
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Offline Hot Hap

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 01:50:00 AM »
I'm in.

Offline Stone Knife

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 05:50:00 AM »
I have had several with wood.
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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 06:19:00 AM »
The weight of the arrow seams to be more important than the material.  Pass throughs on deer have been the norm for me with arrows over 550 grains irregardless of material (I have used wood, aluminum and carbon over the past 39 years).  I had penetration problems when I used an aluminum arrow setup that weighed about 490 grns from a 60lb recurve.  I now use arrows in the 580 grn range out of 50 lb recurves with no problems (the newer fast flight recurves are just as fast as that older 60 lber).
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Offline straitera

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 06:37:00 AM »
Woods total 700+ grains & passthrough most of the time w/razor sharp 2-blade bh's. Lighter weight aluminums did not around 500grains prior. Read where carbons will penetrate best if all other variables are equal.
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Offline doctari

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 06:50:00 AM »
Wood (Ash) arrows with a woodsmen BH. Firm believer in heavy arrows.
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Offline longbowray

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 07:47:00 AM »
On elk and deer with 580 wood arrows all the time shoot 57 lb for high and 51 for low. All  about the weight and is the flying good out of bow .
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Offline Looper

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 08:52:00 AM »
On deer, I usually get two holes. One in, one out. Sometimes the arrow stays in, sometimes it zips on through. It varies depending on the animal and the angle. That's using wood with everything from 80# plus to 50#. I do draw 31" or so, so that does add a little extra oomph.

On hogs, it's usually about the same. I've shot a few big boys and gotten two holes, but I mostly use the heavier bows. The last big boar I shot, though, I got good penetration, but his offside shoulder stopped the arrow from exiting. He still died.

Offline Bob B.

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 09:24:00 AM »
Last year I was shooting a 66 inch Mowhawk, 54 pounds at 30 inches.  I had a fast flight string with silencers.  My wood arrow was heavy, around 650 grains with a single bevel head - a tusker concord.  The shot was 35 yards, pretty far fo my abilities.  The arrow went completely through the deer and split a wrist sized log after exiting the deer.  She was a mature doe, never heard the bow or the arrow and did know what jsut hit her.  She looked around, walked about 60 yards, laid down.  Eventlually she put her head down and she was done.

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2011, 10:04:00 AM »
Wood, carbon, aluminum,....if they all weigh the same and have the same broadhead that's sharp, they should be equal in penetration. Mass and speed, should give the same results if all is equal. If there is a difference, the average Joe would hardly notice!
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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2011, 10:22:00 AM »
With a nice, big broadhead and enough mass in the arrow, I don't think shaft diameter matters on game. On foam you might see a difference in penetration, but meat is altogether different. Blood is an excellent lubricant and you're making a big hole for the shaft to follow.
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Offline Blaino

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2011, 10:27:00 AM »
i never thought the small dia. really made much difference. especially with a big coc bh on the business end.

they gotta come up with something new to sell more arrows....
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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2011, 11:47:00 AM »
I shoot a 60lb SKY longbow - 23/64 woodies that weigh 650gr. Sometimes I get complete pass throughs and sometimes I dont.  Depends what you hit bonewise.
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Offline Bjorn

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2011, 02:18:00 PM »
Certainly the industry wants folks to believe that carbon penetrates more than wood.  For my part that is hard to quantify-never killed an animal with carbon or aluminum as I only shoot wood. IMO penetration has more to do with shot placement than anything else.

Offline JohnV

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 02:23:00 PM »
I guess my experiences differ from others.  I exclusively shot wood cedars tipped with sharp Black Diamond Delta broadheads in the 1980's. I rarely had a complete pass through even though I was shooting recurve and longbows of 60-62#. I now shoot heavy carbons with single bevel 2 blade broadheads out of a 55# bow and nearly all shots are complete pass throughs.
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Offline Jesse Minish

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »
I cant compare them because all I shoot is wood. With that said I can only remember a couple arrows that didn't completely pass through.

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 02:50:00 PM »
When I shot aluminum arrows I didn't get very many complete pass throughs.  Those arrows were in the 525 grain range.  The woods I shoot now are at about 675 grains and they don't usually slow down until they hit dirt.  I would worry more about the weight of the arrow and making sure your broadhead is sharp.

Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: Pass-throughs????
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2011, 04:06:00 PM »
I have had pass thrus with wood, but carbon penetrates better than either wood or aluminum. The smaller diameter helps some, but the recovery of carbon when it hits something is quicker thus straighter and it has been proven by easton and others companies to penetrate better when all else is the same, meaning arrow weight, broadhead and speed. Shawn
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