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Author Topic: Longbows - Back to the Future  (Read 344 times)

Offline MajorJim

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Longbows - Back to the Future
« on: September 11, 2011, 02:30:00 PM »
New to the forum, after lurking in and out for some time now.

I learned to shoot at at 5 years of age, with an old bow that today we would call a longbow.  Learned a valuable lesson on length of pull versus arrow length when I japped the arrow tip on a projection in the shelf and let the arrow fly - the rear flew and the tip jammed, leaving thankfully only a large welt on my left arm.

Since then, went to recurves for deer hunting in PA, arrow making in college when I could not afford "store bought", compounds, crossbows nad now taking the plunge back to the longbow.  

I guess what you learn at a youong age sticks with you, and it tough to overcome.  I learned to use the arrow as my sight, so I tend to remove the sights, hollow sights, red dot sights and go back to the old way.  I seem to shoot a lot better without the gizmos.

I have been in and out of archery over the years.  Moves, deployments, active duty, civilian jobs, weekends on Reserve Duty, etc.  Retired from the USAR, and settled into a civilian job, I have some precious time.

Things have changed, and I am glad to see the old longbow finally getting its due.  But since I have probably forgotten more than I know, and coming in cold to a market where you actually have some great choices, I seem to have a ton of questions.

I am looking hard at John McDonald's Big River longbows.  From the posts I have seen, the man got it right.  Problem is, how do you make a decision on what to order form him with no pictures, catalog, web site, etc?  Seems that you need a darn good idea of exactly what you want, and all I know now is that I need a longbow.  Phenolyic risers?  Reverse grips, babboo core versus not?  Reflex deflex (is that really a longbow?)I did pick up one of his used bows recently -Howard Hill design with reverse riser (which I thought at first was strung backwards!).  Just need a string.

And what about strings??  Used to be you got what they had, and you ordered a striong to match your bow length - with the brace height on a take it or leave it basis.  6 strand, 8 strand, 10 strand.  And some great new materials.  Was looking at Brownells site, and they have some interesting stuff - like their Crown Center Serving that is slicker than slick (Phelgmish?) and looks like it has minimal stretch.  Who makes strings that uses that stuff?

Anyway, advance warning of many questions.  If I get too out of hand, just hit me over the head with an old bow.

Jim

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Re: Longbows - Back to the Future
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »
Phlegmish?? HAHAHAHA   :laughing:    :laughing:
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Re: Longbows - Back to the Future
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 02:37:00 PM »
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Re: Longbows - Back to the Future
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 10:33:00 PM »
Welcome to the tradgang family.

The journey is awesome as well.

God bless,Mudd
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Re: Longbows - Back to the Future
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2011, 10:37:00 PM »
Welcome, although you may not be "new to trad" check out the link on the top. Also don't be afraid to talk to the sponsors many of them will talk to you about what you need not what they want to sell you. Most of all HAVE FUN!

Offline David Dumke

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Re: Longbows - Back to the Future
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2011, 10:49:00 PM »
I've said this to another new member before but I'm happy to pass the word along. I myself am new to traditional archery and here are the things I wish I would have done prior to jumping in head first.

1. Get my draw length measured.
2. Find out what length bow I really need.
3. Test out different # bows to see what's most comfortable at my draw length.
4. Get in touch with a mentor or coach to help me with my form. (I've adapted pretty well with online help and such but I've finally got an archery coach to help me along.)

All of the sponsors on here know their stuff and everyone is super friendly as you may have already noticed. Nobody makes snide remarks about your lack of knowledge and most are willing to go above and beyond to help. I've had members ask me to PM them if I live near their area so we can meet up and they would mentor me themselves!

The only things you truly need to worry about starting off is your draw length, what size and #age you want your bow, and how to get your arrows to best suit your bow. The rest of that info you can inquire to a dealer and they will explain the advantages/purpose of each.

so my suggestion is go to a local sporting goods store or, as my luck has been, a specialty hunting shop and ask them to measure your draw length, if you don't know it already. You won't be sorry when you get all of the necessary info out of the way and it's not as difficult as it seems.

Welcome to the "gang" and have FUN! I'm sure you will   :)
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Offline Blackstick

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Re: Longbows - Back to the Future
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2011, 12:11:00 AM »
Nice post David!

I will also 2nd what he said. Good Luck.

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Re: Longbows - Back to the Future
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2011, 08:04:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Mudd:
Welcome to the tradgang family.

The journey is awesome as well.

God bless,Mudd
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