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Author Topic: Hog kill zone - disected  (Read 984 times)

Offline Blaino

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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 09:10:00 AM »
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Here's something related...I'd like to see the results of a single bevel head and a heavy arrow.
  Hog Shield  
That guys is so funny with his accent! [/b]
i didn't hear anyone say anything about the BH being busted.....  better "beef up" them head if your going to hunt with Troy.  

yall don't talk like that in TX?  haha  Terry nailed it.
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2011, 09:15:00 AM »
Looper....I said that cause he sure sounded like one....just figured he was a transplant.    :biglaugh:

Never heard of a Geechie.... tell us more sir!
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2011, 09:18:00 AM »
Terry, can I see an outline of the sheild above the exit wound and angling toward the head?

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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2011, 09:21:00 AM »
looper is spot on.  i didn't think other people would know what i was talkin bout if i said he got a little geechi goin on.... i'm sure you hear a lot stronger in the dark corner.

ahhh the english language and all of it's dialects brought together by sticks and strings.
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2011, 09:27:00 AM »
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Looper....I said that cause he sure sounded like one....just figured he was a transplant.     :biglaugh:  

Never heard of a Geechie.... tell us more sir!
here's a start...
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gullah_language
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2011, 09:52:00 AM »
Ms Bona....here's a few pics that are better that will show you the shield....

     

   

Here's another Boar where you can see the outline....AND, just how far back it goes....

   

   
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2011, 10:18:00 AM »
Interesting video, but he is off on the liver.  They back up the lungs, guts behind them, not vice versa.

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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2011, 11:00:00 AM »
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That sir is what you call a 'coon a$$'.
I've spent a lot of time working in LA. At times I really had a hard time understanding some folks, I wondered if they were even talking English.
I finally got to know a few locals and one day I finally got the nerve to ask what a "Coon A$$" was, and I quote..
"A Coon A$$ is someone who will eat anything that doesn't eat them first"
I thought that was pretty funny.

I've traveled all over the US and them Coon A$$'s are some of the nicest, down to earth, give you the shirt off their backs kind of folks you will ever meet.
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2011, 11:21:00 AM »
Ah...Geechie is a creole language....just like coonasses.....no wonder they sound alike.
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2011, 11:25:00 AM »
It looks like you hit dead (little pun there) center of the thickest part of the sheild. How many grains of arrow wt. do you shoot Terry?

Second to a moose hunt I would like to go on a hog hunt. I could do a hog hunt before I could do a moose hunt. Then of course I want antelope, elk and merriams turkey hunts. Heck I want to hunt them all!
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2011, 11:31:00 AM »
580 to 630 grains Gal....the only difference in the two arrows would either be a steel adapter in the bhead...or aquarium tubing inside the shaft.  Mostly shoot 580 though as my all around weight.  And those are shot from 60-70# bows.
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2011, 11:36:00 AM »
It looks like the only way to the vitals is through the sheild. Is that right? Do the sows have a sheild too?

In your opinion would a 50# bow and 550 gr. arrows with an extremely sharp 2 blade do the trick?
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2011, 11:55:00 AM »
Well, technically, the Geechie, or Geechee, is what the Gullah people call themselves.  They are the direct descendants of African slaves, and live along the coast of southern South Carolina and Georgia.  They speak a combination of some african dialect, french, and english.  It's confusing to listen to, but you can make out about every other word and get the gist of what they are saying.  They have managed, for the most part, to keep their heritage alive and are a very colorful, no pun intended, people.

That guy in the video would also be considered a Geechie, but it's different than the Gullah. His people are among the first white people to settle in the lowcountry of South Carolina. They are Europeans, but I don't know where from, exactly. Could be Scotland. Many of those settlements date back to the late 1600s, early 1700s. It was tough country back then. Lots of hostilities with the natives.

I do know that their dialect was influenced by the Gullah and the French-Huguenots. At any rate, they speak very distinctly. The fellow in the video is a classic example, but some of them speak with a much heavier accent. A lot of those little towns have not been influenced very much by outsiders, so the way they speak hasn't been diluted over the years.

The area I'm talking about is the lower quarter of South Carolina and into Georgia. Charleston has it's own distinct dialect, as does Savannah. The Charleston dialect sounds very different from the surrounding rural areas, because of the influence of Sephardic Jews, from Spain.

Unfortunately, the dialects and customs get diluted over the years. People move in from elsewhere, and, while they might pick up a hint of an accent, they essentially corrupt the original. To find the genuine dialects, you have to go to the small settlements, where there is no reason for an outsider to move to.

I live in the opposite corner of the state.  We have our own distinct dialect and unique history. Where I live was once the domain of outlaws and bootleggers. The city folk used to scare their children with tales of the "Dark Corner of the world". Sadly, our history and dialect is fastly fading. Our land has been bought up by developers who have turned it into a vacation home paradise for wealthy northerners. You wouldn't believe the beautiful country that has been closed off to the local people here. That's a whole other infuriating tale, though.

My own accent has changed due to the fact that I lived most of my adult life in Alaska and Washington. I did live in Louisiana for a couple of years, but I held strong and didn't let that influence me too much.

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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2011, 12:01:00 PM »
That set up would kill 'meat hogs' all day long....and would kill a big shielded boar but everything would have to be a little more 'right' if you know what I mean.....proper shot at the proper distance, tuned arrow, and sharp head, no mud caked on impact spot.....  

The Tusker Concords with the tip left pointy would do the trick.  That's the head I'm going to let my gals use when they decide to hunt them.

Click Below and check out the video clip in my 1st post....

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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2011, 12:15:00 PM »
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It looks like the only way to the vitals is through the sheild. Is that right? Do the sows have a sheild too?

In your opinion would a 50# bow and 550 gr. arrows with an extremely sharp 2 blade do the trick?
You want to shoot them right in the arm pit, I've killed a few hogs with a 54# bow one with an STOS head and got a pass through the rest with a WW but I didn't get a pass through with those but the arrow was sticking out the other side. I found a .243 bullet in hog's shield one time, it made it about 2" in and mushroomed perfectly. My opinion is you do not want to hit the shield unless you are using a 2 blade head, heavy arrows and the yardage is short.
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2011, 12:16:00 PM »
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2011, 12:17:00 PM »
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2011, 12:18:00 PM »
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Here's something related...I'd like to see the results of a single bevel head and a heavy arrow.
  Hog Shield  
I had to watch the video again. I just love the accent, ha.

I agree that they should be using a heavier arrow, but that shot placement and that broadhead didn't do him any favors. Looks like he might of clipped vertabrae and that head looks like a cheapy Allen head....don't think they're too sharp.

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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2011, 12:19:00 PM »
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Re: Hog kill zone - disected
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2011, 12:20:00 PM »
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