If I heard correctly, Chris is now making tripple carbon hycurve limbs. I've got tripple carbon longbow limbs, and love them, but I would be very tempted to get the hycurve limbs. I shot some of the old hycurve limbs and found them to be the best recurve type limb I had ever shot. Chris convinced me to get the longbow limbs, saying that they shoot about the same, except the hycurve is faster, and the longbow is quieter. I will say this, the tripple carbon longbow limbs are extremely smooth, especially for longbow limbs. My hycurve with the longbow limbs, is smoother than my older habu recurve.