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Author Topic: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?  (Read 386 times)

Offline Badwithabow

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to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« on: October 11, 2011, 09:40:00 PM »
Well just as it says I have some muzzy phantoms and took the bleeders off what's your thoughts on it? Do they make that much of a difference?
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Offline straitera

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 09:43:00 PM »
Couldn't get Bears w/bleeders to fly right many moons ago. Flew perfect w/o combined w/penetration advantage I see no need.
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Offline TxAg

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 10:02:00 PM »
I'm a 4 blade fan. I just seem to get better holes and bloodtrails...doesn't matter if it's a trad bow or a compound. I like the extra blades.

Offline Thebear_78

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 11:45:00 PM »
I like the phantoms without bleeders myself.

Offline 30coupe

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 12:29:00 AM »
Never used Phantoms, but I agree with straitera on the Bears. I just like 2 blade heads though. I like the penetration I get.
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Offline stujay

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 12:47:00 AM »
If broadhead tunes well with both bleeders and without, then with bleeders on deer sized game and smaller, without for larger game. It has been shown that the muzzy phantoms penetrate better without the bleeders.

Offline Coiloil37

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 01:29:00 AM »
I would shoot the phantoms with the bleeders, if I wanted to shoot a two blade it would be something thicker like a grizzly or abowyer.

Offline Huntinfool7

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 01:42:00 AM »
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Originally posted by straitera:
Couldn't get Bears w/bleeders to fly right many moons ago. Flew perfect w/o combined w/penetration advantage I see no need.
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Offline Bill Carlsen

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 09:14:00 AM »
Phantoms with bleeders will fly perfectly, penetrate just as well and give you better blood trails/quicker kills.
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Offline Terry Green

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 09:17:00 AM »
What are you HUNTING????

Leave them out if you are hunting BIG big Game....but put them back in if you are hunting whitetails.  I won't hunt whitetails without multi blades.

If you can't get a 4 blade through a whitetail, you have other issues with your set up, or you jammed the shoulder socket.....and no 2 blade is guaranteed to go through that.

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Offline wv lungbuster

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 09:27:00 AM »
I agree with Terry. Whitetails are easy to blow threw even with lower poundage, but your arrows have to be tuned and fling straight. I don't see why a little old bleeder would cause poor arrow flight. And I use four blades all the time.
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Offline KentuckyTJ

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 09:34:00 AM »
Yeah what are you hunting? What is your bow pounds at your draw?

I shot many critters with those a few years back. With my light 50lb bows I didn't like the drag those big bleeders created hindering my penetration even on a deer.
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Offline awbowman

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 09:47:00 AM »
Put the bleeders on except for BIG game AND Pigs.

The multiblade would be better for pigs IF you could guarantee penetration, but penetration trumps bloodtrail when pig hunting IMO.
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Offline mark land

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 11:11:00 AM »
I much prefer 4bl heads for all game and choose my setups to give me the penetration I need with a multi blade head, just prefer the holes they put in animals but ensure I get complete penetration as well.
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Offline Badwithabow

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 12:35:00 PM »
I'm shootin a 57# bow axis .400s around 535 total weight...
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Offline JamesKerr

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2011, 12:44:00 PM »
I would leave the bleeders in for any game in US with that setup.
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Offline Terry Green

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2011, 01:10:00 PM »
Brandon......I'm in Calhoun.....look me up sometime.
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Online hardtimes

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2011, 06:37:00 PM »
I always use the bleeders with my old Bear Razorheads. They have always preformed very well.

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2011, 06:53:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Badwithabow:
I'm shootin a 57# bow axis .400s around 535 total weight...
You will be fine with the bleeders at that poundage. Now get you a KME so you can really get them sharp.
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Offline erictetterton

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Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2011, 07:29:00 PM »
Has anyone ever tried a G5 montec 3 blade? I get good flight with those.
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