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Author Topic: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down  (Read 4465 times)

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #100 on: September 21, 2021, 05:04:04 PM »
Brother I’m glad you’re ok and you’re turning something could be real negative into a positive by relaying your story. Hope someone responds appropriately so they make it home every night. Feel better quick
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #101 on: September 22, 2021, 12:04:14 AM »
Its a good thing it did not turn out much worse than it did.

Good heads up for everybody about checking and double checking your stands.Bolts,cables,straps.Everything.

One thing about stands that have been kept up for awhile with straps or ropes is that sometimes animals can chew on those straps and weaken them considerably.

I do like chain on stands to avoid that.

Good luck with rehab!!!

I spent alot of time in S. Illinois while at school thier and majoring in Deer,turkey,waterfowl hunting and a good bit of Bass fishing.:)

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #102 on: September 22, 2021, 08:44:59 AM »
Glad you're alright sir

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #103 on: September 22, 2021, 09:02:32 AM »
I post this every time a fall topic comes up, just a heads up on how quickly things can go bad if you are careless for a few seconds.

The fall

30 years ago while putting up a lock-on. I was putting the stand in a cedar tree with a lot of limbs so I was unhooking my harness and passing the belt around the tree and rehooking as I passed a limb on my way up.

I was in a hurry, didn't look at my hook up, and leaned back against the climbing belt after I heard the safety catch snap. I leaned back about 12 feet up and my safety hook pulled loose, I think I pulled my shirttail in with hook and kept the safety snap open.
Out of the tree I went, backwards. I saw the limbs going by as I fell and thought "this is going to hurt". I rolled backwards in flight and hit on my shoulders and the back of my head, my back popped like a shotgun going off.

I knew it was going to hurt but wasn't prepared for the degree of pain I felt. It was so bad I passed out on the ground, then things got hazy, I would wake up looking at the sky, try to move, pass out again and come to with my face buried in the dirt. I also knew my wrist was broken.

I was finally able to get up to a standing fetal position. For some addled reason I thought I needed to take the lock on that was on the ground with me so I got back down on the ground, rolled into the straps and tried to walk out of the valley. No one knew where I was at, I was 45 miles from home and knew it was up to me to and me alone to get out.

I could only take 6" shuffling baby steps, my back felt like a bomb had exploded in it, then I started dry heaving. I knew I was going into shock, with each spasm from the dry heaving my pain doubled.

I finally got to my Ranger pick-up, got inside, belted myself in and pumped up the pneumatic lumbar support for my back. At this point I realized I hadn't locked my hubs in for 4 wheel drive and it was a rough road going out. I knew I couldn't out and in again so I floored the gas and hopped for the best.

I made it out to the locked gate, staggered out of my truck unlocked the gate, got back in and headed home driving with one hand. The pain was incredible.

I got home, honked the horn to get my wife's attention and told her I was in really bad shape and needed to get to the hospital.

At the hospital I had all the tests and was sent to an orthopedic surgeon. He set my wrist, looked at my xrays for about 2 seconds, said my back was OK and sent me home.

I was in bed and crawling to the bathroom for days, the pain was still out the roof. For the next year there was no way I could sit, stand or lay down for any length of time before the pain made me shift positions, then it got better and I recovered.

About 20 years later my back started bothering me again and I went to a chiropractor. He looked at my xrays and said "when did you break your back"? There it was, a huge jagged break in my vertebrae that was actually offset to the side.

That dang Dr I saw sent me home with a badly broken back, I haven't trusted doctors since.

I  rode a Baker suicide stand down twice. The worst time I stepped too close to the tree and the seat climber and bottom part took off down the tree. The both parts fell but the climber caught about 10 feet down. The platform was still going and I was stripped through the climber. When the platform stopped I was at the base of the tree with my feet still in the straps. I was pitched backward violently with my head striking the ground. If the platform had stopped a foot higher the backward motion would have snapped my back like a twig because my head couldn't have touched the ground.

I lay there on the ground with my arms completely paralyzed from going through the seat climber wondering what I was going to do next. As I lay on the ground I could feel a little tingling in my fingertips after about a half hour, the feeling gradually came back in my arms and I went home.

My arms were as black as coal on the inside from my armpit to my wrists.

I went home, got out my 15# sledge, beat that stand into pieces and threw it is a dumpster. I wanted to make sure no one could retrieve it from the dumpster and get killed or injured using it.

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2021, 09:04:07 AM »
Dangit Mike!!!!! Sorry to hear this but glad you will be OK!

Heal up, brother!!!

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2021, 09:18:22 AM »
As bad as this is, you are at least able to share your experience with us. Hopefully, it will convince some body who is not usually very safety concious to pay a lot more attention to climbing safety. Hope you get well soon! Thanks for sharing, but I wish it wasn't necessary.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 12:05:00 PM by Sam McMichael »
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #106 on: September 22, 2021, 09:26:40 AM »
Just a footnote; after hearing about all the cable failures on lock-ons I have changed all of my lock-ons  cables out with chains. I also use the ratchet strap that comes with the stand and add another that is twice as thick.





I used these rails last time I hunted out of lock on, they won't support you if you fall but they do help you keep your balance, give you a place to rest your bow or gun as well as your arms to make siting in a loc-on almost comfortable.

I bought several of them but health issues got in the way and I may not put up my loc-ons this year.




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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #107 on: September 22, 2021, 10:21:51 AM »
Hunters like tree stands... I get it! Some even refuse to hunt any other way. :readit:

Ever wonder why squirrels don't fall out of trees??? But people do!!

In 1977, I fell 22 feet out of a wooden stand that I built myself that same year.
I got banged up pretty good, but at 17 years old healed quickly :pray:
With a handfull of exceptions over the last 40 some years (maybe 10 times)
Old woodchucker has been firmly planted on the ground....  :archer:
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There is a fine line between Hunting, & Sitting there looking Stupid...

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #108 on: September 22, 2021, 10:40:47 AM »
Thanks for sharing, we all take unnecessary steps and this reenforces the facts that everyone will run out of luck eventually - so play it safe. You do have a lot to be thankful for...

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #109 on: September 22, 2021, 11:06:43 AM »
Ouch.  Hope you heal well and heal soon.  Makes me glad I decided to ground hunt when I turned 62.  Hoping others listen and learn the importance of ground-to stand-to ground safety ropes.
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #110 on: September 22, 2021, 11:32:18 AM »
Just read this. Sorry for your experience Mike, but thanks for posting this. Praying for your recovery, now.  My dad fell out of a tree bow hunting and lived a sore back the rest of his life.
I learned about prusic  knots fifty years ago in the Army, but have never used one while hunting. I am going to get on that.
Thanks very much,
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #111 on: September 22, 2021, 12:05:44 PM »
Man, I hope Mike is doing better by now since it happened in 2011 !!!!!!
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #112 on: September 22, 2021, 07:37:11 PM »
happy you are ok, hate to hear these, Mike

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #113 on: September 24, 2021, 07:17:02 AM »
Hope you have a speedy recovery , feel your pain brother!! I was helping my friend hang a stand last Saturday. We found the perfect spot so we got everything ready except I had forgot my harness and line mans belt at home. Anyhow his contact fell out so he went back to the truck to fix it and I proceeded to start hanging the sticks. I was putting the third one up so I was up about 7/8 feet. The strap came disengaged when I yanked on it and there I went . My other hand slipped off and straight drown to the ground. I landed on my right leg and shattered the lower bone it went through my skin (compound fracture) he came back and I told him it was broken. He is a EMT he stabilized it ran back to the truck he helped into the bed and drove me out. I got a ride in a helicopter to the closest trauma hospital. I have three pins in my leg and get to go see a specialist on the 28th. Hopefully the swelling is down enough for surgery! I'm so thankful it wasn't worse! I will NEVER again hang a stand without being tied off. Please be safe out there fellas it only takes a few minutes to get set up with your safety gear. My season is over so I'm going to enjoy it through all of your stories. Hope y'all have a great and successful season.
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #114 on: September 24, 2021, 08:09:45 AM »
Hopefully this isn't considered hijacking, but with all this talk about tree stand safety, maybe some of you can go through specifics on how you address hanging a stand and what you use while sitting.  A lot of people talk about never hunting without tying off or harnessing up, but for new hunters or even seasoned hunters that haven't been very good about stand safety I think there can be a little mystery on ways to stay safe from the ground to the stand.  I think some actual, step by step explanation along with actual products that are used could help save some lives. 
Personally, I haven't been nearly as safety oriented as I should have been while hunting.  Last season I started hunting from a trophyline tree saddle.  With that stand there is a safety rope/linemans belt system that you hook around the tree as you start going up.  You just keep lifting the rope up as you ascend.  Once you are up at the height you want to be at, there is another rope that loops around the tree with a prussic knot on it that clips into your belt.  Then you just hang from that rope.  That way, you are always tied off from the ground to the stand.  That's one of the reasons I started using a saddle because it forces me to be tied into the tree.

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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #115 on: September 24, 2021, 09:13:55 AM »
Steve, you should start a new post.  With hunting season upon us this, I feel your post will go unread by many of your buddies in the trad community.  Post some pictures too and most importantly rest and heal up.  Hope your feeling better and let me know if you need anything. 
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #116 on: September 24, 2021, 10:01:26 AM »
Thanks Jim , I might do that latter on today.
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Re: Tree stand safety and a bowhunter down
« Reply #117 on: September 24, 2021, 10:51:57 AM »
These posts always give me the heedbee jeebees....... :scared:

As I said before, I'm scared shitless of tree stands!!! Some hunters believe that you can't kill a deer unless you are in a tree??? Others, are looking for every edge, to get that big buck they've been chasing?? Some, who have fallen, still insist on hunting from above.... Thinking "I'll be more careful next time" :pray:

For myself, it's as simple as this.....

If I hunt from the ground, I might not get that Big Buck I've been chasing....

OR

If I hunt from a tree, I just might end up dead.....
I only shoot WOOD arrows... My kid makes them, fast as I can break them!

There is a fine line between Hunting, & Sitting there looking Stupid...

May The Great Spirit Guide Your Arrows..... Happy Hunting!!!

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« Reply #118 on: September 25, 2021, 06:08:39 AM »
Bowhunting whitetails has meant being in the trees for me since 1970. I love the view and I feel nearly invisible to my quarry, and most other wildlife in the area.  I remember a report in Bowhunter mag. many years ago that indicated 1/3 of bowhunters will fall out of trees and 10% of those will be killed or maimed for life. My guess is those numbers have improved with the emphasis on safety gear? I hope!

I believe I finally started wearing safety equipment (albeit sucky stuff) about then. I survived the Baker stand era, even replaced a board in one. I only had one incident with the Baker. It came off my feet as I was going down from about 20'. I shinnied down without the stand.  I think I stopped using Baker-type (homemade replicas) stands around 1985.  I'm surprised I've never fallen while hanging stands in the early days. One leg wrapped around a tree, the other cock-eyed, and trying to reach hooks, chains, cut limbs, etc.   I even used my teeth to help with some of the equipment managing.

Last season was the first I ever spent on the ground hunting white-tails. I didn't do it for safety reasons, I wanted to try a different view.  I enjoyed seeing so much so close at eye level. I do miss the view though. I'm not through hunting from trees, but I use the safety rope up and down the tree, and harness hooked up before I leave the rope. Same going down.  Not too much trouble really.


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« Reply #119 on: September 25, 2021, 06:12:56 AM »
I saw a 2008 DDH survey that indicated 3% of the 1/3 who fall will suffer serious injury or death.

Here are more recent statistics.

https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/big-game-hunting/whitetail-deer/statistics-say-falling-treestand

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