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Author Topic: Hickory stave bent  (Read 1393 times)

Offline Frenchymanny

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Hickory stave bent
« on: January 14, 2007, 09:33:00 AM »
Hi there,

I have awide (3" ) hickory stave given to me by a friend. The stave is crooked on the side for the last 18".
I  will make a bow for my nephew, so because of his draw I'll need all the stave's length.

Should I follow the bent and then steam back to straight or use the extra width and draw my blank straight?

First one with hickory!

Thanks,
F-Manny
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Offline Luke Vander Vennen

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 12:25:00 PM »
How crooked is it? Either way, I would try straighten it as best you can.


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Offline Flathead Willie

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 12:42:00 PM »
I cut a Hickory for a bow about a month ago. I split it in half and have it laying in the barn. How long should I wait to begin making a bow or should I use it "wet"?
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Offline Frenchymanny

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2007, 01:11:00 PM »
Hi Luke,

The bent is light, about 3/4 of an inch on the last 18"of thestave.

I will go on a straight bow "by design"

This stave has propeller twist too, so it will be fun!

Thanks,
F-Manny
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Big Jim: Buffalo Bows 62" 60@27 & 65@27 ThunderChilds 56" 62@27 & 62@27 Desert BigHorn 59@27
ML, Shrew &TC Knives
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search of adventure.

Dr. Saxton Pope

Offline Luke Vander Vennen

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 05:38:00 PM »
If it's that small I wouldn't worry about it too much. I think you should be good. Straightening wood has turned into probably the thing I least enjoy in bowmaking  :knothead:
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Offline KyGal

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2007, 06:30:00 PM »
If you get down to heat, use grease on it. Hickory tends to come un-bent without shortening or oil.

Offline Frenchymanny

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2007, 08:59:00 AM »
Thanks Luke and KyGal.

This will be fun!

What are the quality of the dark wood?

F-Manny
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Offline Luke Vander Vennen

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2007, 09:28:00 AM »
The heartwood? I don't think it's the same quality as the lighter sapwood. I think it lacks the tensile strength. Stick with the sapwood and you'll be good. Just so long as you have a sapwood back, a little heartwood in the limbs shouldn't be a major problem.


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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 09:47:00 AM »
The heart wood is more brittle than the sapwood. It would probably be a little better for belly wood and the sapwood is better for the back. I've never worked with heart wood hickory so this is just a guess. I have worked with sapwood and it is extremely strong in tention.     Pat
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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 10:04:00 AM »
I tried once making a Hickory board bow, the board was almost perfect 1/4 sawn hickory but the wood was mostl heart wood and is blew up in a most spectacular way.

Razor sharp splinters went every which way, some were found in the snow 30 feet away and I was just floor tillering it.

Offline gordonf

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2007, 03:27:00 PM »
Follow the grain. A bow with curves is far more interesting to look at than one that is ruler straight (IMO).

Offline Frenchymanny

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2007, 03:55:00 PM »
All good info!

I have plenty of wood on this stave, so I will only keep sapwood.
I will post a picture of the roughed out bow.

How are you, and our family  Ragi? I will take your offer someday to work in your shop, when work will let me with a bit of free time.

F-Manny
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Big Jim: Buffalo Bows 62" 60@27 & 65@27 ThunderChilds 56" 62@27 & 62@27 Desert BigHorn 59@27
ML, Shrew &TC Knives
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Offline Tim Clark

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Re: Hickory stave bent
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2007, 06:16:00 PM »
three-quarters of an inch, over an eighteen inch span?

Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny...... some of my wood is 3/4" over 3/4"!!! LOL!!!!

Go with it. I tell you this, it depends on what kind of hickory it is as far as heating it. Some varieties, once they've seasoned, any kind of heat will not only NOT correct the bend but can be detrimental to the wood cells.

I'd go with it as it is. Heck, I HAVE gone with worse, as it is!!! LOL!
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