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Author Topic: wensel woodsman luck  (Read 974 times)

Offline aquafang

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wensel woodsman luck
« on: October 30, 2011, 06:09:00 AM »
I switched to wensel woodsman broadheads about 4 years ago and have had nothing but bad results.  I've lost more deer in the last 4 years then ever combined.  i've made some great shots that I can' t figure out why this deer did not drop dead in 50 yds.  and I just have not had good blood trails that I use to have with the two blade zwickey or bear broadhead I use to use.  anyone share my problems?
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 06:19:00 AM »
The buck in my avatar was killed with a WW. No problem at all. Pass through. Huge hole. Easy tracking even in the dark.
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 06:42:00 AM »
I doubt its the broadhead and even though I don't use woodsmens I do use Montec G5's out of my compound and thats either the same cut or less and my deer with that don't go too far with all pass thrus.

I've seen pics of woodsman bloodtrails and they look like anything else I guess,,,, the one thing I've seen that you have to do to woodsmans is file the point down a little so it doesn't curl which might be your problem causing bad penetration.

my father had his theory on bloodtrails and this stems from when EVERYONE shot bear razorheads but some folks said there was bad blood trails and some others said it was buckets of blood..

my fathers theory was some deer herds carry more Fat than others and the fat is what closes the wound openings,, old school theory I know but who knows,, I personally think bad blood trails means dull head and good blood trails means scapel sharp (with me; if you cannot shave your face with your broadhead head its not sharp enough).

magnus 1's are a nice broadhead,, how about trying VPA's or even Centaur Battleaxe/biggame OR Abowyers. I never bought a pack of woodsmans after I bought a fresh pack of 6 screw-in 150's and they all wobbled I've avoided them since.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 06:44:00 AM »
Wow! Something else going on there  :dunno:  

Killed a bunch of animals with them and some of the best blood trails you could ask for.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 06:49:00 AM »
I've taken 4 deer with WW. 1 with the original and 3 with the elites. I also took 1 hog with an elite. Good blood trails on each one.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 07:23:00 AM »
Gotta just be a string of bad luck then.  They are sharp!  And no matter what anatomy pic u look at i wouldnt put it anywhere else.  Some great placed shots.  Trailed the deer for a half mile before losing trail!  I've just lost confidence with them and without that things arent gonna get any better.
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 07:48:00 AM »
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Wow! Something else going on there   :dunno:  

Killed a bunch of animals with them and some of the best blood trails you could ask for.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 07:59:00 AM »
if those ww heads were SHARP, the problem is NOT at all with the broadhead .....
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 08:05:00 AM »


I shot a nice 6x6 elk a couple years ago with an original Woodsman. This is part of the short 40 yard blood trail. (I watched the bull fall)
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 08:54:00 AM »
Nothing wrong with the WW killin' capability. Are yours really sharp? Shot placement is the critical issue. If you hit BOTH lungs they will not go over 100 yards.

 
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 09:12:00 AM »
Sometimes I think we really dump a lot of brainpower on what  type of broadhead to use, when really what matters is a well placed shot with a sharp broadhead.  

Here's the result of a WW shot (I have another similar pic from the next season), but honestly any point on the end of my arrow would have done in this situation.


 
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 09:25:00 AM »
Like everyone else I have had great blood trails with them .
If your not happy or confinent with them change back and hunt with zwickeys again .
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2011, 09:29:00 AM »
I can't imagine the problem is all related solely to the broadhead either.  But, I think if I had the problems while shooting the Woodsman that you have had, I would switch to another head.  If the only thing you changed was the broadhead, 4 years ago, and you've had this poor string of luck, then change back to your old heads or pick another new one.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2011, 10:21:00 AM »
Blaming the bh is simply rediculous!

I'd bet your "great shots" weren't so great.

It's all about shot placement..plain and simple!
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2011, 10:33:00 AM »
If you tracked it a half mile, it wasn't the shot you thought it was. It's happened to me this year. In the fraction of a second a shot takes place your eyes can play slot of tricks. What looks like a broadside shot could be quartering to slightly and be the difference between a double and single lung. And recovery or not.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2011, 10:34:00 AM »
ya  I've had good blood trail with my ww and lots of meat in the freezer.  I'd have to day its just BAD LUCK.  Go back to the good luck two blades.
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2011, 10:39:00 AM »
I've only shot one animal with a WW.  It was my first turkey.  The problem was on my end.  I hit him low and back and he flew away.  Found him under a tree and finished him off.  That said, I thought I had those broadheads sharp.  Which they were, but, I aquired some Bear broadheads through St. Judes.  I've gotten those shaving sharp and have them loaded in my quiver.

Either way, you have to be careful when placing blame.  There are so many variables to take into account.  Just my thought.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2011, 10:44:00 AM »
If you have lost faith in the heads go to a differnt head that YOU like. Do not stick to one because of the name.
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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2011, 11:19:00 AM »
These broadheads are sharp and I've had great success with them pver the last few years.
This year I have taken 4 does with this head. I spined one, broke both front shoulders on another, and double lunged the other two.

I have noticed a difference in quality of some of these broadheads.
This lack of quality I speak of is that when you lay the broadhead on a flat stone, the entire head does not lay flat. Not getting the entire  head on the stone, doesn't allow the head to be as sharp as possible.

The heads need to be sharpened out of the package, they are not ready to hunt with. When you can shave hair from your arm, then they are sharp enough.

I have hunted these heads with the tip ground down and also stock. It doesn't matter.

If you are tracking a half a mile, you should look at your shot placement. 3/4s up the front back leg - broadside.

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Re: wensel woodsman luck
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2011, 11:25:00 AM »
What Steve said.

A "great" shot with any broadhead will result in a recovered deer. What you are experiencing is not a broadhead issue.

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