Need arrow advice for 70-75# longbow

[BowHunterGA]

So, I have spent some time with Stu Millers spine spreadsheet and I am not coming up with the combination I really want so I am here seeking advice and more importantly asking for specific arrow setups people here may be using for a heavier weight longbow.

Today I shoot a combination of Wood and Carbon arrows from my bows and I have not made a solid commitement to which type I want to shoot from this new bow but I am leaning towards Carbon shafts for this bow if I can find a set up that I feel comfortable with. So here is what I am looking for:

30" total length bop
Longbow will be 70@28, I draw 29.5 so I figure around 74-75# at my draw.
I want a total arrow weight of around 750 grains if I can get there and still have enough spine.
I have not made a final decision on broadheads at this time but probably something in the 165 grain range, heavier if I need to to reach my goal for total arrow weight.

Currently I do not understand all of the FOC measurements and discussions so if you would like to add this info it would be appreciated.

I did spend some time searching PowWow to find similair discussions but so far I have not found what I am looking for so if you know of a thread I have overlooked a link would be great as well.

Thanks in advance!

[Margly]

Check out Easton full metal jacket 250 dangerous game!
They should be stiff enough!

[Benny Nganabbarru]

With my 75# @ 28" Howard Hill Wesley Special, I shoot 95/100# Douglas fir. I draw about 29", and my arrows are 30". They weigh about 680 grains, I think, with 160 grain points. So, if I wanted heavier arrows, I would buy the heaviest spines that Surewood Shafts have, and use Woody Weights to get them up to weight.

[Kentucky Jeff]

With my Dave Miller Old Tom Longbow pulling about 68 lbs at my 30" draw I found the Arrow Dynamics Hollow Head Tapered carbon shafts shoot wonderfully.  I am using a 225 grain TuffHead up front with a standard glue on aluminum adaptor that goes 32 grains or thereabouts.  The Hammer Head shafts are weight forward and while you can buy an insert that will bump up the weight 100 grains I haven't found it necessary.  These shafts bareshaft wonderfully in my bow.

[bornagainbowhunter]

I use carbon shafts.  I shoot a 55-75 Gold Tip traditional.  I only shoot about 620gr.  I used to shoot heavier arrows, but no longer feel the need.  When I wanted 750-800gr, I just slipped a 1/4" braided nylon rope inside the shaft.  I shoot a 29.5" 55-75 with a 100gr brass insert and 175gr Zwicky Delta 4 blades.  It works great!

God Bless,
Nathan

[Patrick55]

Shoot wood!! 80 to 85# Douglas Fir. You will get beyond the 750 grains you are looking for. Not much but close. Depends on where you get the shafts and what they are finished out with.  I would guess 800 grains or a little more. I just finished up a dozen. They came it at 826 average for all with a 160 grain broadhead. Let’s talk freight train status!

[Mark 507]

If you are interested in shooting aluminum, I shoot a longbow 71# at 29" and shoot a 2219 30" with 125 grain tips and they fly great.

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Patrick, your experience is remarkably different to mine. My Douglas firs would be too weak at that spine for my bows in the 70# to 75# range, and wouldn't be more than 700 grains. However, at 110/115# spine, I did have some that were around 750 grains with a 160 head.

[Ray Hammond]

Steve

I'm betting 2116's with a 150 -160 grain head would work

I used to shoot that out of a BW LB

If u wanna come over I've got a barrel full of various length arrows of all types- fletched up and a box full of different bheads

We'll shoot them til your arm gives out or u decide!

[BowHunterGA]

Originally posted by Ray Hammond:
Steve

I'm betting 2116's with a 150 -160 grain head would work

I used to shoot that out of a BW LB

If u wanna come over I've got a barrel full of various length arrows of all types- fletched up and a box full of different bheads

We'll shoot them til your arm gives out or u decide!

Now there is an offer that I can't refuse! As soon as she arrives we will see what your schedule allows. Thanks Ray!

[laxbowman]

Steve,

i shoot heritage 350's cut to 30.25 inches out of my humingbird which is 73# @ 28"

i have woodsman 150 screw ins with a 100 gr brass insert as well for 250 up front.

they fly extremely well for me and it sounds like our specs are very similar.

hope you figure it out!

john

[bucksbuouy]

Can I just say that I shoot a 72# @ 28 and also draw to 29.5 where the bow is 105#!!!! It is an arrow spine nightmare! I hope you dont have the same problem I do. I managed to pick up some used 2419 aluminums that work great but when they are gone they are gone. Good luck to ya brother.

[BowHunterGA]

Originally posted by bucksbuouy:
Can I just say that I shoot a 72# @ 28 and also draw to 29.5 where the bow is 105#!!!! It is an arrow spine nightmare! I hope you dont have the same problem I do. I managed to pick up some used 2419 aluminums that work great but when they are gone they are gone. Good luck to ya brother.

Should not be the case for me, I spent an hour with Steve Turay discussing this bow so he knows my draw length and stacking should'nt be a problem.  

[longbowray]

I shoot a hill that 64 in and 68 @ 27 I draw amost 28 and I shoot surewood that 80/85 with 125 up front they weight in at 590 , you can email Tim at braveheart and he work with you for the weight your looking for . I've shoot about 10 lb over what bow weight is , your draw I would go 15 or 20 lb over you will beable to flex more with point weight .

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Wow! That is some serious stack!

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Originally posted by bucksbuouy:
  Can I just say that I shoot a 72# @ 28 and also draw to 29.5 where the bow is 105#!!!!  

if you are gaining 33 pounds between 28" and 29.5"
you have a serious stacking problem going on with that bow.... i mean SERIOUS!          

[snag]

I've got some 100#-105# Surewoods that I bet would work really good for you.

[lpcjon2]

Originally posted by Ben Kleinig:
With my 75# @ 28" Howard Hill Wesley Special, I shoot 95/100# Douglas fir. I draw about 29", and my arrows are 30". They weigh about 680 grains, I think, with 160 grain points. So, if I wanted heavier arrows, I would buy the heaviest spines that Surewood Shafts have, and use Woody Weights to get them up to weight.

Ben is on the money he changed my mind a few years ago and got me to bump up my arrow spine and it made all the difference in the worls.

[David Yukon]

I shot some 2219 XX75 shaft with 165gr up front, out of a 72#@30" and they seem to work good... they are in the classified, I shoot wood now, Snag would do a great job for you if you decide to go that route!

[202turkey]

Steve. It took me nearly six months to find the right arrow comb. for my Dave Guthrie App. Flatbow . The specs are 72# @ 28" I draw 29". My Carb express heritage 250's cut to 30" with 100gr.brass footing and 250gr. points do the trick for me. My broadheads are magnus 1's with steel adapters that I ground down to hit the 250 weight when glued in the broadhead. I fletch with 3 bannanas 4" long and 1/2" high. Total arrow weight after epoxy and hotmelt 750gr.s on my scales.  Hope this helps.  Joe.