ILF limb blow ups?

[Festivus]

Who has had a pair of ILF limbs go out on them?

I know that any limb can give out or blow up but I'm just curious as to what experiences have hunting archers had with these limbs.

It seems to me that target archers fully expect to have limbs go out or blow up on them eventually because they put ALOT more arrows through them. This makes me much more apprehensive about buying limbs second hand from a target archer versus buying ILF limbs from a hunting archer.

Also, are the target limbs designed for the shorter risers that we use. I think that the materials can handle but the glue might not hold up to the extra strain. Maybe it would be wise to stick with less expensive but tried and true glass/wood limbs.

With ILF gaining so much popularity maybe it would be best just to buy new, less expensive glass/wood limbs and know what the history is on those limbs versus buying them used and not know what life is left in them. Also, for the distances that we shoot do the high end limbs give much more of an advantage over the less expensive limbs? I only have experience with glass/wood and glass/foam limbs. Really can't put one over the other and both are very capabable.

[Cherokee Scout]

I am no expert, but I have not seen any ILF blowups in all my experience. I have seen a couple get dry fired and they had no problem. Any limb could come apart, but I do not know why ILF would be any different than any other limb unless shooters are shooting very light shafts for the speed.

[wingnut]

Most of the limb failures that are talked about are the old Hoyt limbs built 20 yrs ago.

Modern ILF limbs are as durable as any limb built and those built by TradGang Sponsors: Morrison, Zipper, Sky and Dryad (us) are designed for use on the short risers.

Mike

[John Nail]

Originally posted by wingnut:
Most of the limb failures that are talked about are the old Hoyt limbs built 20 yrs ago.

Modern ILF limbs are as durable as any limb built and those built by TradGang Sponsors: Morrison, Zipper, Sky and Dryad (us) are designed for use on the short risers.

Mike

and I should imagine they are warranted. I have an ilf bow with two sets of limbs. It doesn't seem to me that they are stressed at all.

[YORNOC]

I have shot most of the new limbs being a target guy and FITA shooter. The pinpoint differences do matter on the target butt. Hunting is a whole different game. The most expensive limbs out there are not going to give you THAT much of a difference in accuracy at 20 yards in a hunting situation. You dont have to spend thousands to be in the game by any means. But with anything else, the cheapest wont guarentee results either.
Nothin' wrong with good old wood/glass.
Your own shooting ability is what really matters.
I've seen one set of ILF blow, they were a custom set at 100#. Other than that, thousands of shots taken with no issues that I know of.

[John Havard]

David, YIKES!  A 100# set of ILF limbs!  I'd have something moist running down my leg if I tried to even pull something like that back very far!  I'd bet the explosion when they went off was impressive.

Mike's right - the new ILF limbs being made by the fine sponsors here on Trad Gang offer tremendous durability and are usually LESS stressed than a bolt-down set of limbs because of overall bow geometry.

[Razorbak]

I had a old set of camo ILF shorts by PSE that split not far from the bushings..they max out about 65#  I want to say they were jackals or something like that...I didnt know PSE made a hunting ILF system back then, I got the limbs in a trade some years back...they shot decent but nothing like the limbs of today

[Turkeys Fear Me]

Most of the ILF limbs that I know of are guaranteed down to 6 grains per pound.  They have to be pretty bombproof to do that.

[2 Barrels]

I've had two sets break.They were from the same maufacture.The retailer was very responsive.They repalced one set of limbs that were a year old.The second set that broke i had bought used.I wasent comfortable with them replaceing them because i had bought them used.But they offerd to anyway.I have noticed that the custom limbs made for the shorter risers have a little thicker limb butts.I'm not a bowyer so i'm not sure why.But the limbs that broke broke in the limb wedge.

[stujay]

I have two sets of Dryad LB epic limbs, bought both sets used and no problems. In fact I really like them.

[AKCrazyhorse]

Those new Dryad, ACS, static tip, recurve limbs gonna be ILF John?

[wingnut]

Roger,

We will be offering the new ACS recurve limb both ways; ILF and boltdown.

Mike

[AKCrazyhorse]

Stop it Mike.  I'm already drooling and having a hard time sleeping.  I've sold 2/3's of my blood and taken a reserve deposit on one of my kidneys.  I think I'm ready!

[John Havard]

Sorry Roger but I see Mike beat me to the answer.  Yep, either way.

[Blackhawk7204]

According to Hoyt's website their new ILF limbs are designed to withstand 1000 dry fires!

[KrEn]

I have seen two ILF limb failures, and one bolt down go during normal use. + a couple that were  overdrawn or dry fired.
The boltdown was a Horne Hunter, that developed a crack near the start of the recurve, and eventually split with no drama.
One was a Hoyt Carbon something (new abot 4-5 years ago) tha more or less exploded, and my own Border Hex V that broke with a loud crack without prior warning.
Syd said he wanted to see them, and I sent the set to Border, and got a new pair with no discussion. They still shoot like a house on fire.
Also had a Morrison riser crack, Bob sent a new one almost instantly.

K

[Festivus]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I was just thinking out loud since I was considering of buying some upper end limbs on the used market.

Do any of you know the warranty of the bigger companies like Hoyt and W&W.

I will probably just stick with new glass/wood or glass/foam limbs since I shoot out to 40 yards maximum for practice and 30 yards max for hunting. I still don't think I will feel comfortable shooting used target limbs from target archers.

For upper end limbs I think I'll just save up for some high end offerings from the sponsors on here.