Lone wolf or muddy outdoor climbing sticks?

[perry f.]

Getting ready to purchase some climbing sticks. Have it narrowed down to lone wolf or muddy outdoor stick. Let me have your opinions

[KSdan]

The muddy seems strange to me. . . they have the special engineered system but still tell you to tie it off. If the system is trustworthy why the need to tie off?

[Mike Burch]

I was making the same decision last year, after years of using climbing spurs. I went with the Muddy sticks and I really like them. Very quick and quiet. I also like the steps being on both sides.

I don't think you can go wrong with either. Both are the best on the market IMHO.

Mike

[njloco]

I agree with Mike, I have the Lone Wolf, very good product and I don't ever use my climbers anymore.

[DGF]

I can't comment on the Muddy as I've never used them, however I love my lone wolf steps. They stack nicely, set up quietly, are light weight yet robust, and strap to my lone wolf stand perfectly.

[Michael Golden]

I have the lone wolf sticks and I really like them. Thy are quite and really easy to hang and even in the dark.

[Fallguy]

Who sells the Muddy sticks I have not seen them yet? I have  Lone Wolf and Gorilla sticks. The thing I like about the Gorilla sticks is that I can have both feet on the same level when installing my stand as opposed to alternating rungs of the Lone Wolf.

[rraming]

Originally posted by DGF:
I can't comment on the Muddy as I've never used them, however I love my lone wolf steps. They stack nicely, set up quietly, are light weight yet robust, and strap to my lone wolf stand perfectly.

Agree, although I could use 4 instead of three. I max at about 14 feet unless I space them farther than the 1'6" max suggested.  Leaves me about a foot or two short of what I would like.

[DGF]

rraming: I have 4 but for most of my setups use three. When I stack 4 I place the stick with the buckle on the bottom and strap upwards to fit the extra depth. 3rivers sells extra sections for $50 and do think it worthwile to have around for some setups.

[Trad-Man]

I've had lone wolf sticks for so long I can't remember when I bought them.  NEVER a complaint or problem with the product or its use.

I just looked at the muddy system.  Looks solid.  From an engineering perspective more moving parts *can* equate to a higher % of failure and I have questions/concerns with the cam lock system.  Those cams are crushing and creating a pinch point which in my experience is not good for rope.

I would say this...if Muddy corp could address these concerns from an engineering/developement perspective I would consider adding one "stick" to eack of my lone wolf set-ups as having 2 sided steps at platform height may be a benefit especially when it is cold.

[Trad-Man]

I POKED AROUND A BIT MORE...made in China...

2009 Muddy climbing stick recall...
 
 http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10300.html

[A.S.]

I love my Lone Wolf sticks. I start with two screw in steps, then my 3 LW sticks. This gets me up to 20 feet

[njloco]

It's really interesting how some of us think the same yet so different, I only use two lone wolf sticks, gets me up about 10-12 feet give or take a foot and I have found it to be high enough, and have had no problems with getting busted, I also have a much better angle to shoot from. I think it was last year I had a nice buck actually come up the tree, you know like a dog, trying to see hat I was, really surprised me, he never got spooked though, he also wasn't big enough for me to shoot as I was looking for his big brother.