OK, I just finished talking to Teresa, very pleasant to visit with, and the conversation went a little bit longer when I told her I was born and raised in the woods of Michigan. She suggested that I would need the XL, of course I ordered the Mackinaw. And also a vest with a hood. And I wanted to order a second Mackinaw, but I will wait until I get the other one. I had her put an extra layer in the lower section of the back, because I've had back surgery five times, and it helps to keep my backside really warm. Stinking arthritis ! It's always good to order from someone like the Asbell's
Thanks for all your help
Carl