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Author Topic: Whip or Kanati or?  (Read 664 times)

Offline Mike Falkner

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Whip or Kanati or?
« on: December 13, 2011, 10:32:00 PM »
I'm looking for a lighter wt bow due to some shoulder issues.  I've been shooting a recurve built for me from a Bingham pattern at about 53#.  Wanting something 45-48 # range, and thinking I want to try a smaller grip.   Looking at some shorter longbows (I'm 5' 8).  

Opinions on a Whip vs Kanati?
Mike


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Offline Rossco7002

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 10:49:00 PM »
Never shot a Kanati but you won't go wrong with a Whip. Fantastic longbow with all the desireable qualities + the bowyer (Dan) is one of the best guys in the business.
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Offline 30coupe

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 10:58:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Rossco7002:
Never shot a Kanati but you won't go wrong with a Whip. Fantastic longbow with all the desireable qualities + the bowyer (Dan) is one of the best guys in the business.
I am just the opposite. I've got a Kanati, but I've never shot a Whip. Jason is also a great guy to deal with and makes one heck of a bow. My Kanati is my go-to bow.

Looks like you are going to be in great shape with either of those to me.
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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 11:00:00 PM »
I too havent shot a Kanati,but they look excellant.I have shot a Toelki or two and they are excellant.Quality throughout,fast,smooth,no hand shock,beautiful.I also would highly recomend Big Jims bow.Also check out Andy Mccoy at Bezaleel bows.com.Great bows are coming out of his masterfull hands.

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 11:41:00 PM »
I have owned both, I would go with the Kanati..no doubt! The Whip is a nice bow, but if your looking to pick up performance in lighter weight...Kanati or Centaur...!

Offline TRADARROW71

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 12:08:00 AM »
WHIP WHIP WHIP!!! fast and quiet all the way around!!

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 12:16:00 AM »
Tough call.....I have shot/owned both and they are both amazing bows.  

I would have to say (IMO) the Whip was quieter, but speed was similar, and cast was similar with the Whip possibly edging out the Kanati in that catagory.

Grips are fairly different with the Whip being slightly more comfortable with the thumb rest and a hair wider throat.

That said the lines on the Kanati and smoothness during and after the shot edge out the Whip.  The Whip had just an ever so slight viberation/shock at the shot.  Hardly noticeable, but the Kanati is dead in the hand.

It would be a tough call for me on this one!

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Offline Ragnarok Forge

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 12:22:00 AM »
Dan is a great guy and makes and awesome bow.  I would buy the Whip.
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Offline Rick Richard

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 06:29:00 AM »
Take a look at the Hoots bows

Offline Froggy

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 06:54:00 AM »
KANATI...   :thumbsup: . Owned both, three Kanati's still here. If a milder r/d is what your'e after, go with the Whip. The Kanati IMO is the best bow going for the $$ for the style of bow it is. Fast, smooth drawing, zero shock and the most important characteristic to me is forgiving for it's shorter frame. All mine are 58". The only bow I have that I can pick up any day of the week and shoot well if having a on day or not. I also give the edge to Kanati for the grip, the Whip's throat is just a bit beefy.

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Offline Bullfrog 1

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 06:55:00 AM »
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Offline mcgroundstalker

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 07:16:00 AM »
It's a Kanati for me! Nice slim grip even with a rubber non-slip thing-a-ma-gig installed.

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Offline Mike Falkner

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 07:39:00 AM »
I love it!  Almost a dead heat.  Well, that tells me I'll be happy either way so I'm going to let the grip decide.  News at 11...

Thanks for the input
Mike


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Offline Mike Falkner

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 07:40:00 AM »
I love it!  Almost a dead heat.  Well, that tells me I'll be happy either way so I'm going to let the grip decide.  News at 11...

Thanks for the input
Mike


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Offline SS Snuffer

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 07:42:00 AM »
Kanati
I will always have this bow!!
It's my go to bow and I have seven.
Chuck
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Offline BUCKY

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 08:57:00 AM »
7! I only have 2.I got to catch up with you Chuck.

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 10:11:00 AM »
Never shot a Kanati but I have shot several Whips!  YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED!!!!!

Oh, and Dan will make a 2-piece and is QUICK on delivery!
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Offline Tutanka

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 10:27:00 AM »
For me personally a whip.  Here's a couple of numbers for ya.  My whip is 64" 53lbs @ 28, my centaur is 62" 54 lbs @28.  The whip is tuned to a total arrow weight of 530 grains, the centaur is tuned to a total arrow weight of 540 grains, both right at 10 gpp.  I have chrono'd the whip at 170 fps and the centaur at 175.  I don't think that Dan gets enough credit for the speed that his bows are able to generate.
Dan has also redesigned the limb profile for his 58, 60, and 62 inch whips to generate additional speed from them, he has also told me that the draw is smoother, as if that is even possible.  They are probably the smoothest drawing bow that I have had the chance to shoot.  I have not had the chance to shoot the new limb design yet, but I am going to visit him over the holidays when I am back home in Montana.  The last whip Dan built for me was a XX (XX = select woods) and he was able to build in six days.  You will be hard pressed to find better customer service than Dan.

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 01:07:00 PM »
Whip by all means. You will be impressed with a Toelke bow. Smooth shooting, fast, and very pleasing to the eye. Dan is a great guy to work with.
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Offline Chromebuck

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Re: Whip or Kanati or?
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2011, 02:44:00 PM »
Dan has a well thought out product, makes effort to keep up with the FPS guys  :saywhat: , is a great instructor and just a wealth of knowledge on life and archery.  Currently I'm on bow #4 from him, but with that said.  There are many bowyers whos products share the same attributes and are great people as well.  Now that you have a short list identified the bottom line is usually grip. At least it is for me.

Know your grip and understand your grip and have that understanding translated into your build. If you do this I think you will be happy right out of the gate and the bowyer becomes arbitrary.  Going through the classifieds and trying the "current trend" this week has cost me far more in the long run than just biting the bullet and working through the design process.  It's half the fun...


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