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Author Topic: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)  (Read 603 times)

Offline highPlains

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Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« on: December 14, 2011, 05:28:00 PM »
I've always been curious exactly what would happen. Never was brave enough to try...

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 05:32:00 PM »
:confused:
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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 05:34:00 PM »
Ouch!! Those pics hurt to just look at from here!! However to arbitrarily blame the string material may be jumping to conclusions.

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 05:36:00 PM »
:scared:    :scared:   yeow!
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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 05:43:00 PM »
That would spoil my day.....   :eek:    :saywhat:
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Offline snakebit40

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 05:50:00 PM »
ooops
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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 05:57:00 PM »
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Originally posted by ron w:
That would spoil my day.....    :eek:      :saywhat:  
.....it would spoil my month!
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Offline Dave Bowers

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 06:01:00 PM »
YIKES!

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 06:01:00 PM »
Thats no good, no good at all. Sorry to see.

Offline Cruiser78

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 06:02:00 PM »
Seeing that is like seeing someone being kicked in his manhood ouch!!!!
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Offline Craig

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 06:20:00 PM »
what was the make of the bow, just in case someone else has one, so they don't use FF with it. I guess that is why you only use FF with bows that were made to shoot with it.
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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 06:48:00 PM »
Good Grief, That's no good!

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 06:51:00 PM »
That's why I don't use FF.
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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 06:54:00 PM »
Yep if you saw or break through the overlay the string does exactly that.  I saw it a few times in person.  That's why every bow we make from selfbows to the new ACS recurves are FF certified.

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 07:00:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Bjorn:
Ouch!! Those pics hurt to just look at from here!! However to arbitrarily blame the string material may be jumping to conclusions.
Yep,  I would have to agree...

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Offline EastTexasRedneck

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 07:01:00 PM »
I've been told by a reputable boywer that what those pics show is a sure sign of dryfire, those are his words not mine.

Offline Looper

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 07:06:00 PM »
Yep, I've seen that before. I had it happen to a non-acs adcock. That bow was FF ready, but the micarta overlay failed and destroyed the limb. I don't think a dry fire was the cause in my case. Here's a pic:
 

Offline rainman

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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 07:10:00 PM »
I use fast flight on My selfbows.  Wood just has to be hardwoods and made correctly.
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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 07:14:00 PM »
I would like to hear more from folks who have experienced the same issue.  That string loop is padded to a fairly thick end loop.   The thick end loop should help prevent the limb split.  Is it actually caused by the ff material under normal use or a dry fire with ff material?   Also does this happen more with wide versus thin limbs?  How about recurve vs longbows & wide vs thick limbs for each?   I would never shoot a ff string on a bow that is not rated for it.   The problem is that this decision is presently based on conjecture and second hand info.  I would love to know what actually causes the problem.  Bowyers, and people who have experienced similar failures please weigh in here.
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Re: Don't use FF with wood tips!!! (pics)
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2011, 07:51:00 PM »
Do you have more detail on how it happened?  How long was ff used before the damaged occured, what were the actual circumstances?
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