I can tell you this, the grip on his bows are the best, and the long bow is no exception. The sheer beauty of his bows exceed everyone, shootability is awesome. I have been to his shop twice, he and Bill stopped working and gave me a shooting lesson for 4 hours. No better service than that in the country, I hope to have my cyclone in 4 weeks. It will look nice next to my tornado, and I will hunt deer, elk, bear, and cougar with them home in Oregon. Thanks for responding to my post.