Fred Eichler Phantom broadheads

[Mint]

Well if they are named after Fred they can't be to sharp! lol  Only kidding buddy!

I would call up Mark Land at Muzzy and talk to him. All the Phantoms I use come out of the package hunting sharp but like Bill says I always test them out first and then resharpen them. It might be as simple as the package was on the shelf for awhile and they oxidized. I have my phantoms hair popping sharp in my quiver but i still touch them up since all broadheads will get dull over time with oxidation. If there is a problem the Muzzy people would want to know about it so they could correct it.

[Bill Carlsen]

What Mint said.

[gvdocholiday]

I've never taken a broadhead out of the package that didn't need sharpening....EVER.

[Charlie Lamb]

Thanks guys!  Looks like they made great changes to an already fine broadhead.

[Ryan Sanpei]

Yes, Mark and the gang at Muzzy are great people to work with.

[Doc Nock]

I agree with the comments to shoot and sharpen to be sure...

I also agree that if it' ain't true, don't print it...why?

There are way too many salespersons at shops and wayyy too many customers who will screw them on the night before cause "packaged said it was hunting sharp?"

Hopefully, not folks on Gang, but we're in that what 8% or so? Something like that...  

[see]

Bought some phantoms when they first came out.Not sharp.I called Muzzy in Cartersville Ga.and wanted to let them know they were not sharp.Lady made no offer to correct mine which I did not care or I would have asked her to do so.Told her to check with her production people and to check this.She said she would and that was the end of our conversation.Both of us acted nice but I did not buy anymore.

[JamesKerr]

Originally posted by Bill Carlsen:
It's a moot point to me. I think if you don't shoot your broadheads several times to make sure they fly well is a mistake. If you do that you have to sharpen them. Do you take your hunting arrows into the field without first shooting them?

Exactly!

[yankeevol]

I'm thinking of using these heads (sans bleeder) this year. I just wish they had used almost any other color than that "wine" colored ferrule. :-)

[Red Beastmaster]

Hopefully it will turn red for you this season.

[tuscarawasbowman]

Varying degrees for many people as to what is sharp.
I've had guys give me their knives and tell me their sharp and I thought they were duller than a popcorn fart. Hunting sharp to me might be dull to you and vica versa. Anyhow, I am not doubting your word But you can't disprove something that is a personal opinion. My .02

[BWD]

Originally posted by Mint:
Well if they are named after Fred they can't be to sharp! lol  Only kidding buddy!

The difference in dimensions are as noted above, and the other difference is they cost about $10 more per 3 pack. I'd say Fred might be sharper than the broadheads.  

[J-dog]

I need another pack of broadheads like I need another hole in my head -

but I just have to get some of these!! I liked the old phantoms - when I really got back into bowhunting - but always thought they could be longer >  well here ya go - have to get some!

No fixed blade head I have ever seen hunting ready out of a pack - and that is my opinion only - like has been said, what I think may no tbe what you think? but lets go hunting!

course I seen many that said they were???????????????    

J

[rraming]

Never met a guy shooting a traditional bow that could make the edge sharper than they came from a factory. It's no big deal and something you will have to learn anyway. Those would not take long to do.

[pdk25]

Originally posted by gvdocholiday:
I've never taken a broadhead out of the package that didn't need sharpening....EVER.

Try a tuffhead some time.

[Kevin Winkler]

I'd have to agree with pdk25. I have a bald patch of skin on my arm that was caused by a Tuffhead that came directly out of the package razor sharp!

[frankwright]

I shot the regular Phantoms last year, I bought several packs from the big auction site and they were pretty sharp.

I drew blood trying to get those dang bleeder blades off.

I could have easily killed a deer with them the way they were but I like my heads to be scary sharp so I touched them up on a diamond rod to get them the way I want them.

I think sharp is a relative thing.

[AZWarts]

I think this is because the company that makes rage mechanical broadheads bought muzzy a couple months ago.

[J-dog]

Nope, I will eat my words as I just ran across some Abowyer brown bearsI forgot I had - Yeah those jokers are SHARP out the pack got a scar to prove it. Not ever touched a tuffhead.

So apologies to Abowyer they are truly scary sharp out the pack.

Though I shot them in targets anyhow for a few shots each - then a quick strop on the paper wheels and they are back sharpie.

Still not hunted with em -

J

[RLA]

The Muzzy heads I've had came semi sharp, but much sharper than a stone point, and stone has done the job for hundreds of years, so sharp enough? is objective.
Now the Thunderhead blades come REAL sharp! Like ready to shave yor face sharp.


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