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Author Topic: TUNE MY WIDOW!!  (Read 435 times)

Offline TAWL

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TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« on: January 28, 2012, 05:23:00 PM »
Hey guys, I recently picked up a PSAII 56# @ 28". My draw length is about 28.5". I shoot split finger which the bow is tillered for. I need help. I CANNOT get this thing tuned. Before I tell you guys what my set up is, I would like to see how you would set it up just to see if I am in the ball park. I love everything about this bow, but it's got me frustrated. So I'm all ears.

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 05:26:00 PM »
What arrows? Aluminum, Carbon or Wood?

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 05:27:00 PM »
carbon

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 05:33:00 PM »
beman ics 500s, 50 gr. insert - 125gr head, 29.5", 3 rivers 5 gpi weight tubes is about where I'd start.
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 05:50:00 PM »
Id get some of the heavier gpi carbons made for trad. Id prolly try a full length 400 for more weight. the stiffer spines are more gpi. might even need a 100 grain insert but thats where Id start.
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 05:58:00 PM »
Gold Tips 55/75 cut to 30-29 1/2" with 225-250 gr up front.Thats my set up for my PSA-III 55@28 and I draw a heavy 28".Widows can be testy with their arrow choice.
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 06:02:00 PM »
When you say "cant get it tuned",  what exactly is the bow "doing" that you dont like?

How I would set it up,  and this is just a WAG, CE 250's, 30"+, with 175 grain field points.  

I would start with brace height in about the middle of what Widow recomends.

If that didnt work or I couldnt get it really "RIGHT"  I would call and ask the folks at Widow monday morning.    ;)

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 06:50:00 PM »
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Gold Tips 55/75 cut to 30-29 1/2" with 225-250 gr up front.Thats my set up for my PSA-III 55@28 and I draw a heavy 28".Widows can be testy with their arrow choice.
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 06:55:00 PM »
i have a black widow pma2 56@28 i draw 29 and my bow loves a heavy spined arrow,340s cut 30 inches with a 225 grain point,it loves 2219s cut 30.5 with 265 grains up front.....just play around with lots of spines itll tell you what it likes...
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 07:04:00 PM »
Arrow Dynamics Trad, cut to 29.5+, standard insert, 200 gr field point/broadhead.

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 07:10:00 PM »
As stated above, GT 5575 29.5" with some decent weight up front.

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 07:39:00 PM »
Thanks guys!! Here is what my current set up is. Im shooting CX Heritage 250's cut 29" bop with a 2" aluminum footing. I've tried everything I could think of from front loading with 300 up front right down to a 125 gr tip. The arrows seem week even with a b50 string. (big time fish tail) I can shoot these arrows off my other 55# bow with a fast flight string and 145 gr point and they fly perfect. I was thinking along the same lines as stevewills and bumping up to 350 heritage as I think it needs a heavy spine. I sure appreciate all the info!! Thanks again

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 07:44:00 PM »
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 07:46:00 PM »
Start with a 400 spine full length with 100 grain insert nd 125 up front

Shoot no feathers and cut from the nock end till they are landing straight

When they do  fletch and u will be done

There are a lot of different ways to tune but this is the way that works for me and gives mr great broadhead flight
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 08:02:00 PM »
Many combinations possible.  As I remember the widow handbook will direct you with the tuning, bare shafting ett., how your arrow is fletched and passes through the window will make a difference as well.  A good bow shop will have you fitted and tuned in 30 minutes.
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 09:32:00 PM »
mine shot the 350s well as well,i got them from the classifieds on here,i think i was only shooting 165 up front....i bareshaft all my bows and have found some bows that like a 340 and some like a 600,im glad i go out and buy alot of shafts when i find them on sale...lol
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 10:11:00 PM »
Widow's take a stiff spine.  If you really draw 28.5 its going to take at least a 400 spine maybe even a 350.  I can tell you for sure no 500 spine shaft will work.  It took at full length 400 with 175gr out of my 44@28 MA drawn to 29in.  Hope that helps.

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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 10:26:00 PM »
I had a PSAII, 60" long and 56#@28". I shot a 29" to bop .400 easton carbon with a 100 gr. brass insert and could use either a 150 gr. or 200 gr. point. I would suggest going with a 29.5" .400 spine carbon (a Gold Tip 55/75 is a .400) and a total point weight of 200 to 250 grains, using either a standard insert and heavy field points or a 50 or 100 gr. brass insert with some different weight field points (125, 150, 175, 200, 250). I think some of the sponsors here offer field point "test packs" with several different weight points. On my old PSAII, I got excellent bare shaft arrow flight with my above mentioned set up. I, like some others here, have found that some of the charts tend to over spine. The charts are a good starting point, but YOU testing YOUR bow with some different combos is the only way to get your bow dialed in! Good luck and let us know what works for you! Mike
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 08:12:00 AM »
Try putting a match stick or something like that behind the side plate with the same arrows. Just something to play with.
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Re: TUNE MY WIDOW!!
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2012, 08:28:00 AM »
What is your brace height and nock point set at?
i shoot mostly aluminun and wood. 2016 and 2018 with 125 grs up front. 58 and 54# bows. For wood i use 55-60spine arrows. What your going thru is the reason I got away from carbon. But thats my choice.

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