Thanks guys. Hitman I did read that and most anything ese for new archers on the net that I could find. I haven't chosen my bow yet because all the shops i can find locally stock almost exclusively compounds! So I haven't been able to handle anybows or get any first hand advice. I know i would like a take down recurve and that my budget is about 300 for the bow + 200 for accessories. I know I'd be best off with a 60-62' 45# bow (my draw lenth is 27'), carbon arrows, a modern string, a tab or glove, a wrist gaurd, and alot of practice. I have no idea whether or not I need a shelf or how to choose the right arrows or how to tune the bow once I get it. I could use some advice on brands of bows and especially some good books on the subject that are pretty beginner friendly. this will be a hunting bow not interested in target shooting except as practice. there ya go you asked for it!