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Author Topic: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy  (Read 520 times)

Offline WJackson11x

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How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« on: January 31, 2012, 09:54:00 PM »
Thought I would do a little "How To" while I did this for people that were interested.  I see things better with pictures, so maybe this will help a bit.  This was not my idea, so I can not take credit for the idea.

Materials needed:
*8/32 Threaded Rod
*File for the threaded rod after cutting to length
*8-32 NC Tap
*Blue Loc Tite
*Side cutting pliers or Dremel
*Your aluminum inserts

 

First step is to tap your inserts. I started at the threaded end, screw the tap in an continue to thread until tap is all the way through your insert
 
 

The next step is to cut your threaded rod to whatever weight your looking for. I cut several for those that don't have a grain scale I cut a 1", 1.5", 2", and 2.5" piece of rod.
 

1"
 

1.5"
 

2"
 
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 09:56:00 PM »
Pretty cool,and more precise than my splitshot jb weld method.Good thinkin!

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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 09:57:00 PM »
2.5"
 

I then filed the end of the rod where cut so the threads are clean, If you have a die in 8/32, that would be the right way to do it. choose the weight you need and thread it into the insert. I thread the fieldpoint (125gr) in first then the rod. i would recommend puting a little loc-tite on it once you decide on the weight.
 

Just for reference, Here is the total weight of the 2" rod with insert and 125gr field point.
188.2 Grains
 

2.5" rod with insert and 125gr field point
203.8 Grains
 

The possible combos are endless, if you want to get your arrows tuned perfect, then this would be a great way to do it cheap. I think I have about $7-8 in materials. The tools and inserts I already had. Good luck, Hope this helps someone.
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1971 Grizzly 45# @ 28 58"

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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 10:11:00 PM »
Thanks for posting this!  I'm curious, do you get any rattling from the insert hitting the inside of the shafting when you shoot?
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 10:12:00 PM »
Wes, I am glad this idea worked for you! My small explanation on your first post was simple and you took it to another level for sure. Very informative with all the pictures..Henry
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 10:16:00 PM »
I have yet to shoot any, I'm going to be tuning my Grizzly soon and will let ya know on the rattling. Heatshrink tubing could always be used over the rod if that was the case. I would assume if you used a long piece of rod, that it may cause some noise.
Henry- Thanks for the idea, I couldn't remember who it was that told me to try it.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 10:16:00 PM »
Solid brass screws will give you a little more weight.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 10:17:00 PM »
Been doing this since Gold Tip first hit the market and realized I didn't have to buy their weights! Good pics and thread. You can buy brass 8/32 screws at Lowes and snip the head off at varying lengths saving the factory threaded end so you don't have to rethread anything  for different weights also.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 10:17:00 PM »
Great idea, and thanks for the foresight of posting weights of different lengths. Been meaning to get a scale, but well, been meaning to get a fletching jig, been meaning to get a new set of arrows, been meaning to get a new takedown...yadda yadda yadda, lol.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 10:21:00 PM »
Great idea on the brass screws! I'm sure you could buy a brass threaded rod somewhere, that would be ideal. The possibilties are endless, feel free to geve some ideas or criticism, that is why I posted this. Hopefully it will allow me to tune my arrows without spending a ton on inserts, points, weighted tubes, etc.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 07:43:00 AM »
It works awsome and is soooo very cheap! I've done this with the brass. Just get the 8-32 2". They work real nice.

 

To answer an earlier question...nope they don't rattle when shot.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 09:58:00 AM »
I wrap the end with black tape to prevent rattling and you can use it to fine tune the weight on each one to match.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 02:13:00 PM »
Awesome!  Nice tutorial, and a great idea.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 02:33:00 PM »
ttt
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 04:08:00 PM »
creative... i like it   :thumbsup:
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2012, 04:22:00 PM »
Use 100 gr brass inserts w/brass screws for ultra heavy up front FOC.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2012, 04:31:00 PM »
Guys thats cool, If you thread it half way out the point end you can add wing nut or a couple of Teflon nuts and have a small game head.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2012, 07:06:00 PM »
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Originally posted by lpcjon2:
Guys thats cool, If you thread it half way out the point end you can add wing nut or a couple of Teflon nuts and have a small game head.
Now, that's a great idea.  Never thought about that one
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2012, 07:24:00 PM »
Is the idea to be able to hit weights that fall in between the standard field point weights?
You can get field points/broadheads from 75 grn to 315 grn, not sure of the purpose for the tapping and addition of screws?  Nice tutorial, I'm just curious.
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Re: How to make your own weighted insert system-Pic Heavy
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2012, 07:26:00 PM »
I believe its for adding internal weight that can be adjusted for tuning.
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