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Offline ozzyshane

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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2012, 11:07:00 PM »
Go the 3 pc it looks great and a lot less probs Thanks Shane
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2012, 11:17:00 PM »
While I was reading through the 1st two pages of responses, my mind just kept saying "go with a 3-piece". I knew you had been working on them and just kept waiting for you to make that a standard offering. A 3-piece Kanati would be a very hard bow to beat!
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2012, 12:27:00 AM »
I can only comment on the connexion hinge, but for my uses it has worked great. It’s surprising that some dislike the way it separates when unstrung. For me that was the main reason to go with it, just unstring it and slip it into your back quiver or pack and make some dust on the mountain bike or beat feet down the trail. My bow is about 10-11 years old and holding up fine at 58 lbs.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2012, 12:58:00 AM »
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Originally posted by pdk25:
I prefer the bow-bolt and have several bows with it.  The only problem is the materials used to give strength give alot of added mass weight.  If I were a bowyer, I would almost certainly learn how to make bows with the sleeve method used by Big Jim or the type that is used by Nate at BAMA bows.  Solid and stable without adding too much mass weight.
:archer:  I love Big Jim's takedown system!
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2012, 01:45:00 AM »
I said bolt as I like the way it looks over the connection hinge.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2012, 01:48:00 AM »
I also agree with Robtattoo. 3Rivers connection on the Tomahawk 2 piece takedowns is the best I think.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2012, 08:31:00 AM »
I like the slide in system better than the bolt system.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2012, 08:34:00 AM »
Whatever you decide I believe there is always a market for a 3-piece AND a 2 piece.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2012, 02:56:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Jason Kendall:
I have enough stuff in the shop to try about 10 composite sleeves like BigJims, I am going to practice with some 2x4's first to see how it goes.

With some of the PM's I have been getting about the different 2-piece systems I may just finish up the 3-piece I have been working on and offer it instead. I already have it shooting great, its smooth and fast, just not as pretty as a 1-piece in my eyes but the added weight is really nice!

   
I think it looks great, You could always add some accent stripes. And now you working with some exotic woods. I think it wood be sweet.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2012, 07:42:00 PM »
Whew, Jason glad you posted that the 3 piece may still have life,  :pray: . Been waiting for the introduction since our email communication.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2012, 06:27:00 AM »
I was hoping for the 3pc also, but either or it don't matter to me.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2012, 07:39:00 AM »
I  have no experience with a bow-bolt but would try one or the type that BigJim or Carribow uses.

I do have a connection hinge on a Mohawk and Northern Mist Shelton and I like both. My fav' two piece TD is my Wes Wallace Royal which has a locator grip and the "small socket". It looks and feels like a one pc.

I do believe there is a market for both 2pc and 3 pc. longbows!
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2012, 08:01:00 AM »
I would be curious as to how many bow bolts have been installed by individual bowyers saying they have not had any problems.
I have installed over 300 carbon sleave systems all in the last 3 years without a single issue. With a little wax in the sleave, they dissasemble with ease.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2012, 08:18:00 AM »
I owned a Toelke Whip for a period of time with the bow bolt. Solid and easy to take apart. I'd leave the bow strung up for months at a time. Worried at first how easily it would come apart. No problem. I have no experience with the hing type connection.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2012, 08:24:00 AM »
i for one like the bow bolt. i had a griffin with one and had no issues what so ever. i also have a socket/sleeve system and i like that too. i give the edge to the bow bolt because i like more weight in my riser.


jason, that 3pc riser looks sweet. add some contrasting laminations and we have a winner !!
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2012, 11:50:00 PM »
I have half a dozen bows with BowBolts and have experienced absolutely ZERO problems. Great system when done properly. The heaviest one I have seen is 78 pounds. I like Jim's socket system too.

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Offline Craig Warren

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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2012, 08:09:00 AM »
Jason,

I'm a little biased I guess, but I think after you try the Bow Bolt you'll see that it is really pretty easy to install and rock solid if done right.  As stated several times earlier in this thread, nobody has seen a Bow Bolt that has failed, but several have seen some bows with them fail.  It really boils down to knowing when a Bow Bolt could or should be used and who is doing the installation.  The size of the riser and the materials in it and the weight, length, and draw length are factors in the "when it should be used" part of the equasion and the "who" part of the equasion depends on the skill set of the installer and his/her attention to detail. From your reputation as a top bowyer and from speaking with you on the phone, Im sure you would have no problems.  HOWEVER, what if.... there were a totally hidden three piece system that required no tools to assemble or take apart and the installation was as simple as any other 3-piece system.  Stay tuned.  The hardware in in the prototype stage as I type this.

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Offline Craig Warren

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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2012, 08:16:00 AM »
Sorry, that should have been "is in the prototype stage....."
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2012, 08:46:00 AM »
Jason,

I sure like the looks of your 3 piece riser!!! I would love to see it strung.
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Re: Connexion Hinge or Bow-Bolt
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2012, 02:08:00 PM »
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i like the looks of the bow bolt and i like a small handle, the hinge just looks bulky to me.
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