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Author Topic: Which Hill and Why?  (Read 1036 times)

Offline Knawbone

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Which Hill and Why?
« on: February 09, 2012, 06:58:00 PM »
Been thinking seriously about buying a Hill bow,aithough Iv' never shot one. To me the shape of the bow and the way it looks just screams traditional glass long bow. I know you Hill shooters have yuor faverites. So please chime in with your favorite . Looking for something around 53# @ 26". Cougar,Cheetah,Rhino,Wasp,or Red Man, or Half Breed Are the models I'd most be interested in hearing about.WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET?   Iknow,Iknow Buy them all!
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
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21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 07:02:00 PM »
I only have one and thats all I need its a Tembo. Hill bows can pry a truck out of the mud, beat of a tiger, or be used as a tent pole or javelin.Any one you but will exceed your expectations.
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 07:06:00 PM »
I can't detect a difference in how the different models shoot. My recommendation - go for the woods you like best!
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 07:09:00 PM »
Knawbone ...
I think that after years of owning , selling and shooting straight limb longbows , many many of which jave been built by Craig for either myself or my customers it comes down to personal aesthetic preference .
Which colour woods do you like ?
I am a fan of natural 'boo if for some reason I cannot get Yew ...
But IMHO they all shoot pretty much the same ... some people find 'boo smoother and less shocky , others say the same for yew ...so on and so on  YMMV .....

most importantly ... pics when you get it eh !
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Offline Knawbone

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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 07:42:00 PM »
Thanks guys,Pics no problem Ben. 66" long for my 26" draw sound right?
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
Kota Prarie Nomad 60" 47@24
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 07:43:00 PM »
My 69 inch tembo was the easiest bow to pull per pound that I've ever shot.
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 07:47:00 PM »
Knawbone ...
sounds spot on ..... you could go shorter imho if in string follow ... but 66" in any configuration at 26" is gonna be sweet to draw , stable to shoot and long like a longbow should be .
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 07:55:00 PM »
I draw right around 26 1/2 and my two blanks are both 66".  I have a Tembo and a Redman.  I would hate to have to choose between them, but there is something about the shooting quality and smoothness of the Redman that is indescribable - OK, I'd choose the Redman but the Tembo is a bit snappier, just not quite as smooth.
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 07:58:00 PM »
Half breed has the best of both worlds, Boo and yew. I had a Redman and liked it but I like my Big Five better, gotta be the Boo.
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 08:08:00 PM »
I've owned number of them, including some with carbon on the back.  My favorites are the Tembo and Big 5. Though my next will probably be a Cheetah.

I visited Craig a few years back, and he spoke very highly of juniper.  Cast very similar to bamboo, but it's prettier.

I think one can go overboard on the number of laminations in the limbs.   I've owned few Westley Specials, with five laminations, and they seemed a bit stiff by comparison to four and three lamination bows.  But in the end, it comes down to what you like to look at. There's probably not 5 fps difference between the bows regardless of lamination numbers or combination.

And you're right, they do scream traditional. Just very solid,good shooting bows.  Nothing to disappoint.  Good luck.

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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 08:20:00 PM »
Owned several. Best performing combo for me is the Half Breed. Boo and Yew.  Plus, I love the looks of Boo and Yew.

However, the Mountian Juniper of the Cheeta is very nice.

In the end, it is more about the grip then the wood combos.

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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 10:10:00 PM »
Thanks for everyones input. Decisions,decisions, what a fun way to end the day.
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HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 11:07:00 PM »

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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 11:22:00 PM »
They are all great bows, but the first I believe really needs to be a Tembo or Big Five, 'cause that's what a Hill really is.
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2012, 02:05:00 AM »
I have just over a 26" draw and my next one will be a reverse handled 62" Cougar at about the same poundage you mentioned.

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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2012, 07:15:00 AM »
Just my opinion but I don't think you will go wrong with a Tembo.

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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2012, 08:10:00 AM »
I bought a used Cheetah a while back. I sent it to Craig to be re-finished and reduced. It's 66", 49@28, (marked 45#) has just a bit of backset. I love the bow and think the juniper is beautiful.

 I just recieved a Tembo that I ordered from Craig. I stayed with 66", I draw 27". I ordered 40@28, it pulled 45# on the bow shop's scale last night. That's about what I was shooting for after reading about the weights marked on this sight. It's a string-follow, tillered for 3-under, and the handle, dished, was made slightly bigger than my Cheetah's per measurements I sent to Craig (feels exactly how I wanted it to). The limbs are carmelized (?) bamboo, clear glass, padouk riser. I only shot it at the shop last night, but I'm excited about the initial shooting. It seems to like 29.5" 2016's with a 145gr. tip the best, which surprised me a little. I'm really looking forward to a lot more expermenting.

 If one of them jumps out at me as a clear favorite, I'll chime back in.

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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2012, 08:28:00 AM »
I own a Wesley Special, a Redman, a Wapiti and soon I will have a Crocodile. They're all good, I believe. It'll shoot, and it'll kill - just choose the combinations you like.
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2012, 08:31:00 AM »
Thanks again everyone,Lots of helpful info,Now I have to decide on a handle style. I have a BBO with a straight handle I like very well, and my R/D are pistol grips. I like the looks of the straight on the hills. I think I would be comfortable with either.
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
Kota Prarie Nomad 60" 47@24
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Re: Which Hill and Why?
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2012, 08:35:00 AM »
BK, What are the woods on the Wapiti?
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
Kota Prarie Nomad 60" 47@24
You can do a lot of things when you have too W S Butler My Grandfather

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