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Offline Jason Kendall

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wood shafts
« on: February 10, 2012, 06:37:00 PM »
I haven't shot wood arrows for years but I am thinking of going back to them. Is cedar still a good choice? I am looking for a tapered shaft around 500 grains total with 125 up front.  29.5" shaft.  I would like to try a few to get the right spine and then order a dozen from a sponsor.

Offline lpcjon2

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 06:41:00 PM »
Douglas Fir is the new Cedar. You can check with Fletcher( the feathered shaft) he is a sponsor and a great guy.
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Offline rraming

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 06:59:00 PM »
Surewoods, Braveheart has them

Offline Jason Kendall

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 07:03:00 PM »
Arent they really heavy?

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 07:03:00 PM »
Yep, Braveheart has the test kits, check this out!

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=112571

But, they are heavier than cedar, these weighed in about 600 gr with 125 point..
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 07:23:00 PM »
Jason for a shaft that light with nocks, feathers, finishes and a 125 gn point you need a light shaft-375 gns before you cut and taper. Spruce is as light as it gets.
As lpcjon says Fir is the new Cedar no question; and it will weigh 100+ gns more than your target.

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 07:27:00 PM »
There is a handy weight/spine chart on Surewood Shafts website for their douglas fir. I believe sitka spruce may be a little lighter than doug fir in most cases, so that may be worth a look as well. As far as consistent and straight and easy to work with, Surewoods are hard to beat, and would be even more awesome if they were tapered. I saw that The Feathered Shaft offers them tapered, so I know where my next dozen are coming from unless I go back to ash   :saywhat:   . Have fun with it, I just switched to wood and shoot it exclusively now.     :thumbsup:
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 07:34:00 PM »
Hildebrand will get you the weight you want also, Sitka spruce is just as good as Fir, just not as heavy.
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 07:54:00 PM »
Jason,
      I recently read a good review on the cedar shafts three rivers sells.
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 08:18:00 PM »
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Hildebrand will get you the weight you want also, Sitka spruce is just as good as Fir, just not as heavy.
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2012, 09:55:00 PM »
Jason, check with snag on this site. He make a sweet arrow and sell the surewood shaft tapered. You can get them custom or just the plain shaft and do it your self. He is great to deal with and will shoot you in the right direction.
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2012, 10:25:00 PM »
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Offline Knawbone

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2012, 10:55:00 PM »
For me cedar is hard to beat,their not as heavy as fir, but I think they respond better out of the bow. You can adjust weight and f.o.c. by increasing tip weight.Use just enough fletch to stabalize your arrow.Increased tip weight may call for a heavier spine arrow than you would normally use.
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Offline Jason Kendall

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2012, 11:11:00 PM »
I dont shoot much 3D anymore, I may just go with the Surewoods, from what I have been reading about them they appear to be quite the shaft!

I dont shoot past 25yds when hunting so the extra weight really shouldnt be an issue.

Thanks for the info everyone.

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2012, 11:29:00 PM »
Doug fir is a good arrow woods, and Surewood makes excellent shafts.  As folks have already noted, it's generally heavier than cedar, but it varies within a spine range, so if you request the lightest you can get at the spine you want, they'll be pretty close to medium or heavy cedars at the same spine.

I wouldn't write off cedar just yet, though.  It's still my favorite wood arrow. Good quality cedar is harder to come by, but there's still some good stuff around.  Good luck.

Offline bicster

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 06:19:00 AM »
I just finished making my first batch of tapered Douglas Fir arrows. They are outstanding! They came in straight and the grain runs from one end to the other end of the arrow. I did not find them heavier than POC in fact my finished arrow weighs the same as my tapered POC's.

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 09:20:00 AM »
I highly recommend the Surewood's. They carry a little more weight than poc and give a resounding thump in my 3d deer. I am one of the many that have been Snagged! David is a great guy to deal with. As a matter of a fact I am about to order a couple dozen more from him soon.
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2012, 09:23:00 AM »
oops double post
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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2012, 09:40:00 AM »
Jason, POC's are good , Tapered Sitka Spruce is better but as far as I'm concerned Dougie Fir is my favorite. Just My 2 Cents!.

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Re: wood shafts
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2012, 09:52:00 AM »
I have used cedar and spruce, both good.  Fir shafts from Sure Wood is the best I've used.  Nice wt to them and come very straight.

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