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Author Topic: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30  (Read 26852 times)

Offline Butch Speer

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #220 on: February 14, 2010, 10:02:00 AM »
I'm definitely not against tech talk, don't see where Terry ever said he was either.

 
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  Not to say there there shouldn't or wont be equipment discussions....but they have been running amok lately, and we are going to do something about it since its seems to be causing too much divisiveness.


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How else would people learn about carbon arrows, new string material or the like. But, to me this is first & foremost a hunting site. Was in the beginning & I'd like to see it remain that way.
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Offline LimbLover

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #221 on: February 14, 2010, 10:05:00 AM »
I trust you Terry. I've been on a lot of forums for a lot of different things and this one is really clean.

However, there are only so many things to talk about in traditional archery. Everything has been discussed at one point or the other. If you lock it down tighter and tighter - there won't be anything new to discuss.

My experience with dying boards is that the mods try to crack down on things and set rules to the point where you get flaming regarding "use the search function!", "read the sticky". Then when you do people complain about you bringing up old threads! Its a no win and the board fails.

PLEASE...keep this in mind with whatever you are doing. If you have more stickies than threads on the first page - you are in trouble!
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Offline Autumnarcher

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #222 on: February 14, 2010, 10:41:00 AM »
Great discussion,thanks for bringing the topic up Terry. Trad archery is no different than many other pasttimes, in that I think it is natural for some to try to glean as much knowlege or information they can to help them become proficient. At times, yes, it gets ridiculous.

Take for example-fishing. Give a kid a cane pole, a hook, worm and bobber, and he'll figur out how to catch fish. Simple and to the point. But ya gotta get the worm wet.
Then he gets older, and starts to tinkering too much with high tech carbon rods, electronic lures, lures that smell funny, digital reels, and soon enough, he has a ton of technical knowhow, and surprisingly, isnt catchin as many fish. We can do the same thing to ourselves if we let it happen.

This site was a huge help when I took up trad archery several years ago, and I can say with certainty that it helped me get on target. But it all boiled down to, in the end, taking that information, and using it to punch a lot of holes in my bag target.

I see threads that get more technical than I care to bother with. Nothing says we have to read every single thread on every single topic. I skip over those if I choose, and read the ones about hunts, the spirit of the chase, threads with pics of bows and game, of deer camps, or a winter hike with bow in hand shooting stumps or squirrels.

Sure, sometimes a tech issue pops up, and I dig around to see if I can find the answer I'm lookin for,if not, I'll ask for a little input and move on.

Trying to pinpoint what is and what is not "too technical" can be likened to trying to nail jello to a pine board.

One thread recently really got my goat was folks being called a hypocrite if they shoot a R/D bow, or an arrow with steel points etc. That proverbial "what is traditional" kind of talk that pits one against the other.

Lots of ways to skin a cat, doesnt really matter how it gets skinned, so long as in the end, you have a skin.


Thanks for a great site Terry.
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Offline hayslope

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #223 on: February 14, 2010, 10:53:00 AM »
Terry,

It is amazing what some folks "see" on here, then again, what many folks don't see because they think it's normal.

I know I'm showing my age here......

I have to believe that the "tech mentality" or whatever we want to call it, emanates from that general period of time when the hunting (and to a slightly lesser degree - archery) industry realized that there was an ENORMOUS amount of money to be made. With that realization, companies hired better business school grads who chipped away at the original business plans.  Outcome - bring new (slightly better) products to the market EVERY (or every other) year.  People will always flock to the "latest and greatest".  This mentality was first embraced (with wide open arms I might add) by the general hunting magazine industry.  Advertising does sell magazines and tech articles (especially comparison articles) will sell magazines off of news racks.  God help us now that HuntingTV and its "horn porn" have arrived.....show me any other industry where someone can take an airline attendant with zero experience and make her an industry expert and icon in less that a year......marketing genius at its finest!

Anyone ever actually time the actual "show" in comparison to the "commercials".

I see a somewhat recurring theme.......technology in this industry will make you better!  If you haven't noticed....there are broadheads out there that will actually kill, gut and skin your deer!  There are bows that are so quiet and fast, the deer is dead before the sonic boom is heard!

All sound too familiar?  Yep....pretty much been going on for a long time in every industry.

I can be thankful that I grew up when bowhunting was obviously not a "big bucks industry" (no pun intended) and when ALL the equipment is what we now call "traditional".

"Embracing Technology"........oh yea......that's what we did in the early days when we switched from a longbow to a recurve!

You moderators will have your hands full.....I don't envy you one bit.  It won't go away (unless you delete them!)

While I will do as someone else said....self police.....I will occasionally click on one of those threads....mainly to see if George piped in with his usual wit (which will..on occasion...make me spit coffee on my laptop or blow snot bubbles out my nose!)

Hey...if nothing else.....thanks for noticing things that drive some of us crazy!

Any way you look at it......this is still a pretty great group of folks.  There are enough folks on here to keep the techies grounded!
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Offline 30coupe

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #224 on: February 14, 2010, 11:09:00 AM »
Great post, Terry! You are right, as usual. I think what you are seeing here is very similar to what I see in the classroom. People want to find a quick, easy solution instead of working for it.

The tendency is to look at the equipment as both the problem and the solution when the real issue is form and lack of proper practice.

The same is true for woodsmanship. There is nothing one can carry, wear or spray on that will take the place of getting close, playing the wind, and knowing your equipment (no matter what it is) well enough to place the arrow where it needs to be.

Thanks for the reminder, Terry!
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Offline SMA

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #225 on: February 14, 2010, 11:33:00 AM »
I'm with ya!

Offline el_kirk

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #226 on: February 14, 2010, 11:41:00 AM »
I first joined Tradgang in late 2008, when I decided that I wanted to get a traditional bow and start hunting with it (instead of the rifle or compound I've always used).  Even though I had three great mentors here in Lander, Wyoming I scoured the site for information whenever I could.  I made a few friends, bought a longbow and LEARNED.  

I hunt elk, and learned about how other guys in other parts of the world hunt elk.
I hunt grouse, including sage grouse, and have had a blast doing so (and eating them).
After watching folks and their antelope hunting posts, I think I've decided to try it myself next fall.

I've always shot woodies out of my longbow, but decided to take the plunge and try carbons because  of what I learned on Tradgang.  (That, and I break woodies like they're toothpicks!)  Nobody I know shoots carbons and without the information on this site I wouldn't have known where to begin.  

And as useful as the info was, I get very bored with repetitive tech talk.

So thanks moderators, for filtering out another rehash of "what's the best pointy thing to go on the end of a stick", "can I get another 0.25fps from my bow if I lurch forward when I release" and of course 'who sleeps nekid when hunting'!   :)   And thanks for the good stuff!

Kirk

ps - I'm working on a short post from my sage grouse hunts this fall.

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #227 on: February 14, 2010, 11:47:00 AM »
Guess Im showin my age also as I don't like to admit it, but for 22 years with a stick my out come has been the same, a "Sharp" broadhead behind the front leg with a relatively heavy arrow and within a hundred yards the animal is down {100 yards being far} ... That being said, when everything "doesn't" go right, I know it's me, All this "Tech Talk"'s not why I do this ... Good Luck All ... Keep It Simple  ....

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #228 on: February 14, 2010, 11:51:00 AM »
I think I have a devils advocate explaination for some of what you might be seeing here.

Please don't get upset wih me, because my goal is to attempt to shed some light on Terry's first post, by explaining my own experience into trad gear.

I owned a sporting goods store in Michigan for nearly 15 years. What I have seen is that todays deer hunter, and likely any big game hunter, knows far more about the species he hunts than at any time, including native peoples.

I noticed the same with flyfishermen. Todays fly fishermen is armed with information flyfishermen 30 years ago wouldn't believe.

Between all the internet forums, magazines, DVD'd, TV shows, etc, hunters are overwhelmed with "how to, where to" info.

Adding the reams biological research available, typical hunters now know far more about what deer eat when, when they want carbs, protein, how many hours they must digest and chew cud, when the estrus cycle starts, peaks and ends, how long the cycle lasts, which vocalizations doe's in estrus use, when fawns are supposed to drop, when the fawns leave the doe, buck dispersal, deer home range, what colors deer see, identifying a 3 year old buck from a 4 year old buck by photo, antler growth in relation to deer population and on and on and on.

Compared to say 1970, typical deer hunters today know far more about, thermals, winds, scent control, deer vocalizations, not letting deer know you're there on entry and exit of stand, proper treestand setup in relation to sun, shadows, background cover, where to set up, when to set up, when to hunt what food source, which plaid or camo is open pattern instead of blobs, how to improve one's land for cover and food, and on and on and on.

When I talk to younger 20 something deer hunters, I'm stunned about how knowledgeable they are on some really fine points of all things deer hunting, compared to the guy who'd stumble around, find a stump to sit and light a cigar, 40 years ago.

Add that hunter demographics are aging, in Michigan the average hunter age is 42, and we're ending up with a larger pool of experienced hunters with many years under their belts with lots of hunting knowledge. And that's happening in every state, we getting older as a group. Hunting experience goes hand in hand with getting older.

The result is, more and more of us don't really have a whole lot of "how to hunt" questions left to ask. At least in our prefered common species we hunt.

I've been bowhunting for 31 years and never went a bow season without killing at least one deer. Some years, filling crop permits due to our extreme deer population back then, I killed fairly large multiples of deer. In the late 1980's I killed 18 deer in back to back years with a bow. 9 each year.

Even this year, I killed a buck and a doe while just hunting natural on the ground with a longbow.

The result is, I don't really have many deer "hunting" questions. I feel I could maybe write a book or give tutorials on whitetail deer hunting, but I really don't have any midwest deer "hunting" questions left.

My guess is, there's lots of guys in my same boat, in varied degree's. They know enough to where a "where to set up" question seems almost silly to ask. I think there's lots of guys who can give a good answer, but less and less who actually need to ask those questions.

Now, if I was going out west for elk, I'd have tons of questions because I'm green in that aspect.
But whitetails are still America's #1 big game animal. And more and more, the older and more experienced whitetail hunters don't have much to ask. Answer questions yes, ask questions no.

Now, compare that to tech questions about brace, limb woods, string materials, arrow spine, etc. There is no overwhelming supply of that info. There's tradgang, stickbow and TB magazine and a few other outlets.

Finally, as a former compound shooter, I think I can explain another aspect that I've yet seen mentioned anywhere.

To me, there seems to be 2 main schools of thought on trad gear.
You have the more "old school" type that have always used trad gear or have for at least 20 plus years, and they often consider themselves trad archers who bowhunt. Trad archers first.
Then you have those who've switched from compounds to trad gear over the last 10 years and they often consider themselves bowhunters who've chosen trad gear for the challenge. Bowhunters first.

See the difference? One group considers themselves trad archers first and another considers themselves bowhunters who use trad gear first.

I think I'm in the minority because I fall into the second catagory. I shot compounds for years and I'm a bowhunter who uses trad gear. I didn't make the switch for any cultural reasons, I did so because I grew bored with the ease of killing deer with a compound and that compound hunting was more machine than man. I wanted to bring some of the challenge back and went to stick and string.

So in a sense, me getting into trad archery was totally gear related. I got into it for the gear.

For me personally, deer hunting is an individual sport, even if there's friends at deer camp with me. It's me against the deer. Like how golf is you against the course. If you're playing against other people, you've missed the challenge.

For this reason, I have little interest in the social gatherings aspect of traditional archery. I have little interest in pitching a tent for a weekend of stump shooting at a rendezvous somewhere.

I do go to the K-Zoo and Compton's, but to be honest, I'm there only to shop. Again, I'm just being honest in an attempt to shed light, so don't get upset.
I go to test bows, look for cool one of a kind stuff, etc.

As this site gets bigger and bigger, I suspect the smaller group of original gung ho trad lifestyle types from when this site started are getting a little drowned out by the ever growing numbers of deer hunters who have or are just switching to trad gear coupled with the age of the internet forum.

My guess is, the majority of them have done so for reasons similar to me. Killing deer with a compound offered little challenge anymore.

So if there's questions to be asked, they will be inquiring into "how the trad bow works", what are R/D limbs, what string is quiet, can I use a 3 blade head with a 45lb bow, is a 450gr arrow too light? And on and on.

Not so much because they simply want to replace the compound with a stickbow. No, it's because they have little knowledge on the matter and are excited about a new found love of the sport and are excited about the challenge of shooting a trad bow well.

Those of you shooting trad gear for 30 years may think a question about if brace height effects spine or is there diminishing returns of a heavy slow arrow vs a lighter faster arrow may be getting too techy.

I'd maintain many guys are asking simple questions that you have known the answer to for years but they are simply just learning.

One mans "too popular mechanics" question is anothers "what am I doing wrong" question.

They already know enough "hunting" that they don't have to ask hunting questions. But trying to figure out proper brace ht, proper arrow flight, proper spine, what is tiller, why a Hill bow, which broadhead, etc, is what has them confused with their new sport and they are simply trying to get their head around what makes a trad bow work at it's peak performance.

I'm sure nobody would advocate a hunter going out with a terrible brace ht for that bow, with fishtailing arrows, dull head 3 blade heads out of a 40lb bow.

Anyway, as unpopular as this post may be, I feel it's worth posting my opinion for all to chew their cud on. Pun intended. LOL

Offline jim ratcliff

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #229 on: February 14, 2010, 11:53:00 AM »
AMEN! when i found my little browning nomad stalker from my youth i also found this site,got to wanting a long bow and purchased my omp adriondack hunter deluxe 50lb. @28" and i really like the long bow. When this one makes meat then i will upgrade but i got the feeling my equipment was inferior when people spoke of widows and such.
 when i upgrade it will be a lost creek...i like what i see!!! but yeah this is a back to basics site and thats what drew me to it,i want to challenge myself every time i pick my bow up,it may not cost $1,200.00 but it gets the arrow from point a to point b.
  THANKS TERRY FOR A GREAT PLACE TO VISIT AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK,I VISIT THIS "PLACE" DAILY AND ALWAYS LEARN  :archer:
well....let's go let the air out'a one!

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #230 on: February 14, 2010, 11:54:00 AM »
I agree it does get pretty technical around here sometimes.

I started heading that way when I tried carbon arrows for the first time. They weren't even spined properly but my accuracy improved ALOT.

I don't see any harm is posting a new(or new to this time period) idea that improves ones setup. I think Dr. Ashby and others have made good observations and shared them with us. It has been the opposite of what Terry stated, for me, I felt almost ridiculed for wanting to try a certain broadhead that came out about a year or so ago. And that's not right either.

That being said, I often skip over most threads that are obviously technical. Maybe it has gone too far, I just don't read them. I have swung back over to the more simple things but have retained some of the technical information that I have learned.

I got the Tradgang DVD for Christmas and enjoy the shooting tips from Terry and have been practicing those moves. I almost got the chance to try it on a doe the last day of the season!

I respect your opinion Terry. Do what you gotta do.

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Offline Chris Shelton

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #231 on: February 14, 2010, 11:59:00 AM »
WOW, after skimming all of these I feel like we are in berlin and the wall is up!  I have a quote that ALL MUST READ!!!!  "A nation devided is easily defeated"  Take that in, let it swim within your veins.  

There must be a line driven throught the ashes, but where will it be placed is the question?  It sounds to me that some of you guys used this website as a crutch to learn the art of Traditional bowhunting?  Then how can you guys down "tech" talk when you have learned this craft from technology?  Alot of you are not being open minded towards this new technological wave, and you should rethink what you are saying.  

My generation is who will carry this mystical art into the future.  Unfortunatly alot of my peers are VERY dependend on technology.  And if tech talk is cast down into the flames then you may draw the dividing line in a bad place.  You may seperate the old from the new, and that is most definatly something I never want to see.  I dont want the old ways to die off, and then what will happened to traditional bowhunting, it will be a compound without cams!

Bottom line is that this is Terry's site, his domain name, his home.  He can paint it red if he wants or paint it blue, its up to him.  All we can do is hold the latter while he leans out and starts sloppin paint.  Terry I hardly know ya, but already I trust you.  I can see your vision of 20000 people around a campfire shooting crap.  And I hope we all will laugh at this little bump in the future . . .
Best of luck
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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #232 on: February 14, 2010, 12:04:00 PM »
Mojostick, when I first saw your post I thought, "O great, a long winded one". But you have some very good thoughts! Thanks!
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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #233 on: February 14, 2010, 12:14:00 PM »
after reading mojosticks post I have more to add.  I was a kid, age 15 that was given a 40# recurve, and used some carbon arrows off the compound that I had used mabye twice.  I only hunted with a compound one time and imediately realized it wasnt for me.  I forgot my release and didnt like being dependent on it.  I practiced with those arrows for 4 months, they were a estimated 250 grains plus the arrow.  I got good, was shooting milk jugs in the air.  One crisp November morning I got up early with day and headed for the mountains.  Specifically hunting squirrels and grouse in the woods.  This was my first time ever in the woods as a traditional bowhunter and it felt right.  I felt at home.  Finally about noon a mature whitetail buck came within range, and I launched that 350 grain arrow into the vitals of that buck.  The arrow had plastic vanes, and a 3 blade thunderhead broadhead, and I didnt even have a glove, I shot with my bare hand.  The shot was quartering away and the arrow "passed through"(not a complete pass through), and the buck died 80 yards away.  

Imagine what would have happened if that buck was broadside and that arrow would have nailed a rib???

Bottom line is that I got lucky, fortunatly I was hooked on it from then on since.  And I learned, read books magazines and truely learned.  If I can help other newbies be as effective as they can be.  And not have to rely on luck.  I will do my best.  I think that day could have turned out terrible and I would be a compound hunter.  So before you guys get mad at the newbie that askes "simple" questions, think about my story.  Do you want anyone headin afeild like that?  The fact is that I didnt know any better.  And a person new to traditional bowhunting doesnt either, you cant erase a persons previous mentality, you can only push it back into the vault and teach them something new.  The technological beast will eventually break out of the vault and realize that some of the mentality can be placed with the new.
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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #234 on: February 14, 2010, 12:14:00 PM »
I agree a lot with mojostick's comments about being bowhunter first who has taken up challenge of trad gear.  Some of us have engineering backgrounds and jobs that just like to delve into the hows and whys of our gear to maximize its potential.  For me, I don't tinker so much to try to get the extra fps or "modernize" the fundamental simplicity of shooting instinctive, but I want to know I at least have my gear set up as accurate as possible so when I do shoot poorly, I know it is ME and not my gear that is the shortcoming.  Although no fun to swallow, it is easier for me not to get frustrated by my own shortcomings, because I get great enjoyment working on and hopefully seeing improvement from my own hard work. If you are always fighting your set up because you did not spend the "tech" time to get it right, it is easier to stay frustrated and give up because the improvement may not be physically possible no matter how much you work at it.  Bottom line for me, it is still about the purity of shooting stick and string instinctively ( or however you prefer) but we must have a place for the tech aspect to help when needed.  Thanks for allowing that here.

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #235 on: February 14, 2010, 12:26:00 PM »
I agree with your thoughts. But when you start with the traditional bow, you need information and technical advice. For several months, you think technology only. In fact, you seem to forget the gap between newcomers and those who know. Right now, I learn a lot from Tradgang.com site and I rarely read messages on the techniques of hunting. I have bowhunted (with a compound) for 25 years.
My main goal now is to have the technical opinion of members on various products.
I bought my recurve, and I made a good choice because of your site.
But again I repeat that you have reason to believe that! And I agree with you.
Your job is to combine both harmoniously.

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #236 on: February 14, 2010, 12:30:00 PM »
That took some time to read. Thanks Terry. Being one of the original charter members, I have seen the changes over the years, Some good Some not so good.. I hate the Bow  vs other bow, Seem the best bow is the one that argues loudest. Broadheads, bow strings, Camo The same. It was really nice when you got whitetail hunting tips from hunters with 20, 30 years experiance. You don't see them here much anymore. I need to shut up now. Terry thanks again, I'm behind you 110%

Bob

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #237 on: February 14, 2010, 12:30:00 PM »
FWIW, I think some need to read the words Terry wrote, and stop trying to read between the lines. He isnt asking a lot...

Do this....type "skinny string" or just "vs." into the search feature and only search POW WOW. Look at the number of posts that they(the mods) have to, HAVE TO, read and possibly edit. Think about how much time that takes. Time that could be spent with family or friends. In the woods. Shooting. They choose to do this, to keep this site as good as it is. I can understand the frustration.

Chris, I understand your point about bad set ups and "newbies". Im sure no one here, mods or otherwise, would let that happen if they could help it. I dont think newbies have ever gotten rebuked for asking questions. Actually, tradgang seems to have a "no question is a dumb question" mentality.

This place is a wealth of information. It gets to a point where an overload of information (read OPINIONS) is more harm than help. Confidence is a HUGE part of accurate shooting with our weapons. Belittling someone for not using a snuffer, or having a thick string, or the wrong type of silencers will do NOTHING for their individual confidence. What good does that do?
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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #238 on: February 14, 2010, 12:42:00 PM »
I surf until I find something that interests me or I find a question that has not been answered. Then I read and comment if I feel like it.

If it is technical and has alot of follow up I skip it. If it is a hunting question and has alot of follow up I skip it. I may read it but not contribute.

There are alot of the same things asked or comments made repeatedly. I assume it is folks new to trad bowhunting. I don't think I have THE answer to all thier questions. So if others can help them that's ok with me. The only "tech" questions that is important to me has to do with good arrow flight.
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Offline Muleyslayer

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Re: Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30
« Reply #239 on: February 14, 2010, 12:42:00 PM »
I'm new to tradgang and I must say it is the best thing that happened to me as of lately. I put up the training wheels because my friends  and I got into to many crazy dynamic questions. I want my bow to be simple and beuatiful and the arrow to go where I tell it not the $100 site bolted on.as a newbie I still need a place to ask the questions about what works for othersand if it will work for me. This is an amazing site and Terry you do what you need to do  I'm behind you all the way God Bless  :campfire:
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