Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30

[soaring eagle]

the allure of traditional archery for me is the simplicity. you put a very sharp broadhead on a properly spined arrow and skillfully shoot it from your properly tuned bow. Im with Terry I dont care what you shoot. Is carbon better than wood? question should be is it spined properly for your bow? which broadhead is better? the sharp one.I have been away from the site for a while partly due to what I saw as a bit of stickbow elitism. we need to support each other be respectful of other peoples views and supportive of other peoples methods. lets not throw the ethics flag every time we disagree. sorry if I wandered off topic a bit

[rraming]

Sure sounds like popular mechanics with all the tuning questions lately. How about a sticky on tuning a bow, that should take care of them.

[Catskill Longbow]

Wow-Sorry Terry but this is out of hand.

Even if it is somewhat primitive/traditional the way we hunt, if you don't tune your bow and equipment it's like  going on tour with a three stringed guitar. 27 pages? We need something to talk about when it's off season!

Love this site!

[Terry Green]

Catskill....you have missed the point of this thread entirely...or, you have not read what I wrote or said.  That is obvious since your statements have been addressed and what you stated is no where near what the purpose of this thread was.

Also, you missed that this thread is over 2 years old....we've been keeping in on track that long and you really didn't notice.

Again,....not sure why I have to say this OVER AN OVER...this is NOT about tuning your equipment!!!

[Terry Green]

Smithhammer....Yeah, I pulled your post.

I wonder if I walked into your house and spouted off sarcastic smart a$$ remarks about how you were trying to keep your house in order if you would allow that or throw me out?

If you didn't throw me out....you surely wouldn't be much of a man.

[KSdan]

Ok Terry. I think Gene from CO said it simply. . . but let me try again

Electronic stuff can really make a mess of communication. . . so first, I have NOTHING but great thoughts and appreciation for this site.  It is a daily check for me and no other site like it!  Brilliant, genius, and if the internet can provide a semi-community; this is my #1 pick.  

Second- I think I have been around here a number of years, contributed, traded lots of stuff, met friends, had guys come hunt with me from here, and hopefully been a fellow gentleman and contributor to the discussion. . .

I have read this post and I am just still confused.  Sorry- I just must be really dense.  You obviously are passionate about wanting something out of this site that you feel is not occurring. But I really just do not get what that is.  I am kind of sheepish now about bringing up discussions as I may be one of the "violators" of your vision and gut feelings- but I do not know.

Sorry dude- I still don't get the issue. I will keep trying.  Since this is your site, I sure want to step into your vision as to what this is meant to be.

Maybe a list of just a couple of really poor posts and really good ones could helps us see.  

Sorry for laboring this- I just want to be a good contributor to the discussion.

Thanks man
Dan Rudman

[Nakohe]

Terry, thank you for your diligence. I can not say how much I appreciate all you Admin's do. The way this site has grown over the years is astonishing and keeping it on track has to be a never ending job for you all, and I for one appreciated you reminding everyone what it is all about. Some seem to loose track of what Trad is all about. I have never hunted with compound and do not wish too, but do not knock those who do, but they can go to another site to discuss their views. Not here. I have hunted with powder, but gave that up to go all trad almost 5 years ago. I enjoy hunting more now. Just IMHO. I like all of us do get bummed out at times when I have a bad year, but all in all it has been well worth it. This site has helped me a lot and enjoy it daily. Thanks for all you do Terry

[Terry Green]

KSDan....quit worrying....and go hunting.  No need to labor over this....like I said earlier...this was started over 2 years ago for some problems we saw arising.  This post addressed and STOPPED the problems...then it was resurrected last year for as the snake was raising its head again....and again, the problem stopped.

I see no reason why they wont stop now....some of the problems are not just topics, but people.  People that want to argue just for the sake of arguing, to bait folks out, and then pounce on them for not buying into the snake oil.  

We've even had folks here that have made the statement 'If you don't shoot what I say you should shoot, then you are un-ethical'.  No one needs to deal with that type of mentality on this site.  You should see the email I received last night.  All Mr Professional on the public forum, but not so in his email to me.  Most of these type folks can't help but show their colors sooner or later, and most do sooner.

Again, this is nothing new....nothing we haven't done before. And unlike what was stated way back by one individual(who is also no longer with us), someone we have more members and more sponsors despite his claims.

[lpcjon2]

I think most of the gang are thinking about this thread in a broad perspective.

  Think of it as a baseball stadium, instead of looking at the size of the stadium, look at the essential parts. The bases,pitchers mound,infield,outfield, and the grass. Thats all you need to play the game. The concession stands and the seats and signage are just extra comforts.

  All he is saying is that we have strayed away from the basic principles of hunting(woodsman ship, getting close,stalking techniques,stand placement,and basic how to's of hunting)and have edged are way to how can I get more out of what I have to make it easier to harvest the animal.

  If you search the main forums there are forums for all kinds of stuff that most dont use. Its pretty simple, just get back to the roots of hunting with traditional equipment and become a better hunter with your skills and not compensate with the equipment.

  When it comes down to the point of hunting its all about you, your skill,and the animal(nothing but you can get you close).These are the things that newbies and even oldies need, as we all grow past ourselves and become over confident in our equipment and rely on it way to much.Its time we rely on our own physical and mental skills as a woodsman!

[b.glass]

I feel like I was invited to be here. It is a privilage not a right. If you don't like the rules then go else where. Simple as that.

If someone has worn out thier welcome by continually breaking the rules without reguard to the host then they SHOULD be asked to leave or made to leave. Not much unlike a previous comparison to someones home.

I went through the EFOC stage as well. Like a teenager I couldn't be told something, I had to find out for myself. I ended up taking something from the theory but not all of it.

I'm not sure how to get someone new to not ask these questions. Perhaps if we as older members remind them to use a search or talk with them through pm's. I have to admit I have been passing over those topics. I will start helping them by directing them to the person who I feel can help them the most.

[LoneWolf73]

Have fun. Shoot arrows out of Traditional bows and watch them fly where you point. Not to complicated.
Thanks for steering the ship on this cruise.

[Gordon Jabben]

Thanks Terry for what you are doing.  I had a post pulled once and later saw the reason for it.  Since retirement, I have really had the time to enjoy this forum and thank you guys for it.

[BowHunterGA]

Originally posted by Terry Green:
.......if I walked into your house and spouted off sarcastic smart a$$ remarks about how you were trying to keep your house in order if you would allow that or throw me out?

Terry your statement rings true about more than just TradGang. If more people would focus on keeping their own house and not their neighbors we would ALL be in a better place!

Just my two cents and not directed at anyone in particular. Please don't start flaming me thinking I am talking about you or your buddy. It is simply a general comment based on daily observations in life and much less to do with TradGang.

[rkelly]

Terry:

No apology necessary.

[customcrester]

Amen Terry! I agree 100% with that! For me 2012 is about self improvement and just shooting the bow and not worrying about my equipment. I say find a arrow that shoots decent and just shoot the things and have FUN!

[tuscarawasbowman]

I don't get what all the arguing is about. This is a FREE site that is run by several good guys. They just want to see it run right. As my dad used to say "Just shut up and follow the rules". I don't get what's so hard about that....

[snakebit40]

Originally posted by tuscarawasbowman:
I don't get what all the arguing is about. This is a FREE site that is run by several good guys. They just want to see it run right. As my dad used to say "Just shut up and follow the rules". I don't get what's so hard about that....

Yep! I love TradGang and I'm very appreciative of all the admins. I don't know if I'll ever be able to give back all that I have gained from here. But I will try            

[PaddyMac]

I like the fact that the site isn't over regulated and that people are perfectly free to wander off into the poison ivy of foolish statements now and then, as I've done a couple of times (or so) and have been respectfully and politely and even good-humoredly been so informed. It's one of the ways I know I'm not among knotheads.

[mongoose]

   

[sticbow]

Thank you..           its not only Trad Gang..i even see a Trad archey supply heading in the same "tech" way...it really bothers me..i will just choose to go else where with other sponsor's

Scott