Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30

[gringol]

I think you found the nut, Sam.  We live in a very complicated, technically driven world, and keeping things simple is a struggle.  It sounds like that's why Terry started this site.  I think Terry is right to try to rein in the tech stuff, and I don't think he is too harsh.  There are a couple of threads going right now that are a bit too techie for me, but Terry hasn't beat up on those guys.  Based on some of the recent posts I think the topic starter has actually concluded that he has made things more complicated than necessary.  That's what it's all about, finding your way to simple.

In today's world simple is hard to do, which is exactly why we all love trad hunting, and everyone finds their way to simplicity by a different route.  Some of us may need a nudge in the right direction sometimes.  I know it helps me.

Keep it up Terry.  This site is bitchin.

[zipper bowss]

It should be fairly obvious that I really enjoy this site. I post here often and even after a long day I still come here to read hunting stories as well as too see how others approach this thing we call traditional archery. For the most part the folks here are as good as they get!  I have made several dear friends from being involved with tradgang and I absolutely appreciate this site and all the work that goes into it.  That is both hosting and moderating it.  I think that running my own businesses has given me a pretty good idea what it takes to keep a monster like this site going.
I am one who believes that there are no 100% right answers for everyone in every situation. What I mean is what works for me will not work for everyone. It would be silly to expect it too. I don’t understand why anyone would want to deprive another of the opportunity to learn something new and then make up their own mind if it is in fact right for them or not. I will admit that I do not read every thread. I have not read all of this one, because   as I said I have a business to run also. That being said anyone who comes here with an agenda of this is the only way to approach traditional archery is just kidding  themselves. If that were the case there would only be one bow being built, one type of arrow available and only one broadhead produced.
I have to say I am a little confused and frankly a little concerned by this thread. I don’t know maybe I just don’t understand what it is really all about. I hope that is the situation.

One of my businesses is building custom bows. I use carbon in most of my limbs. I also use foam in most of my limbs. Not because I just enjoy spending money on these items but because that is what my customers want. I also build ILF risers and ILF limbs. Is this techy? Another of my businesses is manufacturing broadheads. Some of those broadheads are single bevel and have been around since 1984. Have I misread this situation or are these not some of the items that are under fire from this thread? Please tell me I’m wrong!
 I really want to hope that I am missing the point of this thread and someone will help me understand. I would hate to think that the place that I have come to enjoy so much no longer has a place for me. I have not felt this gutted since my favorite hunting property was clear cut on Nov. 1st .
Help me understand. So I can get back to work!

Bill

[Terry Green]

Bill....do you realize this thread is over 2 years old???

Have all of the thread topics you just mentioned been here during the last 2 years?

No need to feel gutted.....    

[zipper bowss]

I don’t understand your questions?  It was brought back up on feb. 13 2012. This is Feb. 16 and it has grown form 23 pages to 30. I'm just trying to make since of this and not having any luck.

I'm going back to work.

[heydeerman]

I gotta be honest none if this makes any sense to me going from the first page to the last. Seems like there is a problem with folks asking tech questions?? Am I missing something or just too lazy to read 30 pages of messages?

[Terry Green]

Jim....this is your original post on this thread...

 

Originally posted by heydeerman:
Terry,

The things you state in your original post have been the reason I have become a lurker on here for the most part. I have not posted much for the last year or so. I agree with you but what can a guy do to change what people are talking about?

[emac396]

All I know is I really like it here, only problem is I am on here to darn much.

              Ed

[Terry Green]

I'm not sure why this thread being brought up has cause so much confusion THIS time more so than the last two times...when it originated back in 2110, and was brought back up in 2011.

No matter the case, folks have concerns that are not what I am talking about.

I have tried and tried to get my point across, and I now realize I just can't get it across to everyone.  Some folks are seeing monsters, and there are none.

Again, this thread is over TWO years old, so, what you have seen in the last two years is what you will continue to see.  I don't know what else to say other than this is going to be a hunting forum, and it will not be over taken by a barrage of redundancy tech type threads, or the compound tech mentality....which is what I said two years ago.

I am going to close this thread now, and if anyone had any concerns, they can contact me.

Again, what you have seen over the last two years is what you will continue to see....basically, nothing has changed cause we've been keeping it under wraps since Feb 2010.

[Terry Green]

After chatting with several folk on the phone and email.....I think those folks have much more of a clear understanding of what this thread was about....and that it was just a reminder of what we have been doing since this thread was started.

That this is NOT some 'new' policy, but one that we are continuing to carry out since the snake reared it head a few years back.

I have also received a couple of emails from folks apologizing for their comments at they were seeing monsters that weren't there.  I have edited my comment to EMT as he was one that emailed me this evening.

Again, I don't know why this thread caused issues this time around, but I'm glad the issues have been calmed as it has about wore me out explaining.

I think one other thing we should learn from this thread is, when the thread becomes too long folks may not take the time, which I can understand, to read other posts and not get the point of the original post, and...not to panic and think the sky is falling at Trad Gang.

               

[lpcjon2]

   

[heydeerman]

Terry.....just call me lazy. I'll get off here now.  

[Archie]

I enjoy TradGang, and have learned a lot through it.  There are a lot of decent, helpful people, and some -- whom I've never posted or talked to -- are becoming bowhunting role models for me in some way or another.  

I'll stick with TG.  Even if there were techie info that I felt I needed, I could always get it somewhere else.  There's a LOT of information to be found on this here worldwide web.  As well as my longbow, I shoot a recurve with sights, and am more likely to dress like G.I. Joe than Grizzly Adams when hunting, but I still enjoy the simple things that I read about on TG.

So, I like it that TG administration is trying to point people toward tuning their skills instead of focusing too much on the inanimate equipment of the sport.

[wingnut]

Terry,

It's not the original posts that are of concern it's the direction it gone.  Comments about the use of carbon,foam, ILF as being high tech and not allowed are of concern to those of us that sponsor this site and make our living building those very bows.  I think I'm with Bill on this one.

Mike

[Roger Norris]

I am the least technical bow shooter on this site, guaranteed. Even with my relationship with Shrew Bows, I couldn't tell you a dang thing about building a bow, and I don't care.

If a bowyer wants to clog his website full of technical stuff like foam, carbon, and whatever the heck, have at it.  But I sure don't read it here.

I applaud Terry and crew for desiring to keep this a TRADITIONAL bowhunting site. I have enough HIGH TECH in my life, and come here.....or go to my longbows....for a few SIMPLE moments.

Again...I'm pretty simple...archery to me is about wood, leather, snow, the smell of the woods.

Terry and his guys run this website at great expense to themselves. I appreciate thier occasional hardline as to what it's content will be.

[HuronArcher]

Terry, enjoyed reading your post.  Your reasoning reminded me of the moment I thought about trad hunting.  One Sept. afternoon, my son and I were in some tall grass next to an apple tree scouting the field when a nice 6pt worked it's way towards us. The wind was perfect and the deer feed on hay as it worked it's way towards us and the apples. With my son between me and the deer, I wispered to hold tight and let's see how close he will get. Well that deer came within spitting distance before it scented us, looked us square in the eye and bolted. I looked at my kid after I put his heart back in his chest, and said we could of killed that deer with a spear. That was the moment that I put the compound up and decided to learn about trad hunting on the ground.  I've not taken a deer this way as of yet, but I surely enjoy the challenge.  Thanks for a great site.

[atatarpm]

I studied archery for several years before deciding to even buy a bow. I settled on traditional because those that I considered to be the best were shooting traditional. No gadits of other things like that just a stick and string. They themselves were where the differances were made.
   
I fround out there was far more to archery then I knew and there were far fewer people that I knew or had access to who knew anything about trad gear. So for me the journey started for several years on my own and through books I could buy.

A few years ago I learned about Trad Gang and joined up.I learned of things here that I read but could not really put into operation until I started reading the tecnical stuff as some would call it. To those who wish to say things like "you could join an archery club to learn that" I would like to say that I spend 340 days a years on the road. Do I shoot targets and targets only? Yes because to me if I don't have time to eat it then I don't the time to kill it!
Until now I have kep the target part to myself and not brought it up at all in any of my post on TG

Am totally cought up in the equipment part of trad. No. But I do love it and the journey to make it the best I can ,and in doing so I hope that along the way I improve myself also.
I have watched and gained a lot of respect for some people here. Two of them are Terry Green and Rob Sep.  

Closing this yes I do chase after the best equipment I can get . My thought there is that once it's tuned and arrow flight is dart like then the only other thing I have to work on is the nut behind the string.

[Terry Green]

Originally posted by wingnut:
Terry,

It's not the original posts that are of concern it's the direction it gone.  Comments about the use of carbon,foam, ILF as being high tech and not allowed are of concern to those of us that sponsor this site and make our living building those very bows.  I think I'm with Bill on this one.

Mike

Again, don't know what else to say....you did NOT read where I said anything of the sort, ...don't know why you think I did.  Why are you accusing me saying 'Comments about the use of carbon,foam, ILF as being high tech and not allowed'?

I just posted on a foam core thread a couple of days ago.

I talked to Bill yesterday and he now gets it.

AND AGAIN....I said this is nothing NEW!!!

I give up.....              

[gringol]

Terry,

Maybe this thread has run it's course and needs to be deleted...Keep doing what you've been doing to keep things on the right track behind the scenes.  We are all on this site because we like it, so clearly you've been doing something right.

I'm tired of following this thread, but I can't look away.  It's like a horrible train-wreck...

[sswv]

you can please all the people some of the time...
some of the people all of the time....
but you'll never please all the people all the time.