Trad Gang is not Popular Mechanics - UPDATE page 30

[Molson]

I have to agree.  It used to be entertaining to poke a little back and forth about equipment and such.  Maybe post a different view just to see how the pro and con argument would play out.  All in fun... like sitting around the fire cutting on your buddy for shooting over the back of six deer in four days.

Somewhere along the line, some folks totally new to trad bows with almost no hunting experience got to telling those with the experience how wrong they are and how it should be done.  I think the biggest problem with things like the Doc's study is that some idiot without any real experience can read it and think himself a master.  Trophy kids...

Now somebody post some Caribou hunting pics and a story so I can get to dreaming about them again....  

[leatherneck]

Originally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
 

Originally posted by Terry Green:
When is the last time you've seen a guy put up a pic of his property and ask for stand location advice based on the terrain?

Anybody have an idea on stand placement here?
 

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Biggie, can you say tripod?

[fireball31]

I think a lot of the questions would stop popping up if people learned how to use the search function.

[WESTBROOK]

Well said Terry, it has been getting a little "Techy" lately. Need to quit worrying about the # of strands, grains, FOC, to such a extreme degree and work on how to get themselves and their arrow in the right place at the right time.

Don Thomas stated in an article on buffalo hunting (paraphrase), with all hunters being adequately armed, to different degrees, all animals properly hit were recovered regardless of equipment used. All animals not properly hit were not recovered regardless of equipment used.

I believe that is valid for any animal you hunt.

Eric

[Joshua Long]

As a newbie, I have tried to use the search feature first on my tech questions.  I do see a lot of repeat questions.

[TRADNSC]

Thank you Terry.

David

[BEN]

Originally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
 

Originally posted by Terry Green:
When is the last time you've seen a guy put up a pic of his property and ask for stand location advice based on the terrain?

Anybody have an idea on stand placement here?
   
 [/b]

If you allow me to hunt that piece for say.........a season: I might be able to help you out!!      

[Brently]

Thank you Terry, I hardly read the pow wow any more because of this very thing.  Why make a simple thing complicated?

[GingivitisKahn]

Ah - I don't see it but whatever.  Tradgang is one of the *very* few sites I check multiple times a day.  There are always several threads that are enlightening or entertaining to me.

[2fletch]

Glad you said it Terry. It's a turn off to me to hear too much technology. I like "how to" stuff, but the beauty of traditional archery is the stick and string thing. It ruins it to spend to much thought on equipment.

[metsastaja]

I know this has been on you and Gurs mind for a while. Well stated.  

By the way I spiffed up the platform and have but in a natural blind down at pine.  Should be some good hog hunting there in the next couple of weeks from all the sign I have been seeing.

[GingivitisKahn]

Originally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
 

Originally posted by Terry Green:
When is the last time you've seen a guy put up a pic of his property and ask for stand location advice based on the terrain?

Anybody have an idea on stand placement here?
 

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Wax your string like there's no tomorrow, get a snorkel (with reeds tied to the top of course) and lurk in the pond like some sneaky gaitor of doom.  :-D

[varmint101]

Good post Terry.  I've tried not to get caught up in all the hubub, but I'm not innocent either.

I know when I first started 5 years ago all I had were cedar shafts and a pack of Woodsmans and no help anywhere but here.  It was/is very simple and works.  I remember learning how to sharpen them from a tutorial someone had posted here.  Anyway, I getcha and I agree.

Biggie, try the upwind side!.  

[jhg]

I am about a year into Trad archery and as a way to understand the equipment have found threads regarding broadheads, strings, FPS and other performance related stuff very informative because I had zero understanding of any of them or of trad bows.

I learned about broadheads and made a choice based on the info here. I chose a bow based on info here, balancing design characteristics, esthetics and "feel".  I learned about how to shorten string serving, pad loops and quiet a bow via brace ht and judicous use of silencers.

I hope that general tech info does not disappear entirely because it has helped me greatly in my first year. Frankly, I don't know what I have done without them. And I think design theory as it relates to bows and tackle is very interesting in general, though not to  "majic pill" ones way to a successful hunt.

 I have really enjoyed the posts when someone relates a hunting experience that may or may not have been successful, but was a "success". Most of you know what I 'm talking about.

 I agree the agrumentative posts have detracted from the spirit of friendship here. However, and even understanding Terry's frustration, he and the mods have done a good job controlling it.
I don't think things are too far off track. Nothing a good strong back, a sturdy fulcrum and stout lever can't get back onto the road.

Joshua

[NDTerminator]

So if performance improvement discussion is verbotten, Does this apply to Dr. Asby's research & theory of improved Trad performance? Will  discussion and use of Stu's Calculator threads be banned?  How about discussions in regard to such performance improvers as carbon arrows?  What about questions in regard to alum riser ILF bows and high performance bows such as the ACS?

One of the reasons I joined here was the brotherhood, a guy was made welcome.  I also was freely given advice & info on the daunting task of how to set up & tune my rigs, even though I made it clear I wasn't going to wear plaid wool, shoot wood & chip points.

This post sounds like guys like me who don't confine ourselves to anyone else's Trad mold and who enjoy the process of getting the best out of our setups are not going to be so welcome anymore.

Close mindedness is a bad habit to get into, and generally only leads to greater division than existed in the first place. One thing I've learned out on my farmstead, there's more than one way around the barn...

Probably a bad time to post up about the Hoyt Dorado I ordered yesterday, which will be set up for hunting with a shorty plunger & T-300 rest...  :D

[wapiti]

Not to be the fly in "the ointment" but many threads such as are spoken of came along after the "studies of the advantage of the single bevel" posts. It makes my heart jump when soemone asks WHAT FOC is and not WHAT FOC IS BEST. This tells me the guy or galis learning about what works for him or her and not "just add water and heat for 30 seconds". Information is good when used but we are seeing an overload of information best left at the door at the factory.
How about more threads on whitetail posturing? I have hunted mule deer most of my life and eat up info on what a whitetail thinks.  JMHO and TIFWIT

[no]

I will agree as well. I got caught up in the bow trading buying game a bit, thought there was some magic bow out there for me. But then decided to shoot my northwind longbow only because it was the the first longbow I had & I couldnt get decent with it switching around bows all the time. Went back to aluminum arrows & I am having so much more fun with just one bow. I still look to see whats out there but dont have the urge to buy different stuff anymore.  Mike

[Mike Bolin]

Terry, I agree as well. I've slipped into it myself....and I know better!
I don't think that anyone is saying that foc, efoc, single bevel discussions are going to be taboo. It is human nature to over-examine things sometimes. It is easier to go with the Latest and Greatest than it is to practice with and tune the equipment you have. Alot of guys have done well and continue to do well with "basic equipment"(see Fred Eichler, Roger Rothaar, Gene and Barry Wensel threads). No amount of technology can take the place of skill, aquired thru practice. Shoot the bow you like, find an arrow and broadhead combo that flys true and practice/hunt hard......and have FUN! (It's supposed to be fun.....right?) Mike

[ishiwannabe]

Bravo.

[Pinecone]

Agree!!!


Claudia