Cheap "judo" point

[Bowsey Wails]

Here's a 38 special with a star washer, 3/16 rivet and washer. Weighs 95 grains.

 

The 5/16 brass washers weigh 5 gr each. They will stack inside the casing to add weight. I've also found that the casing can be driven over an 11/32 field point to really up the weight.

Tim

[the Ferret]

Great idea  

[Stone Knife]

Nice!

[ishiwannabe]

Hmmmm looks like some nice bunny busting workmanship there. Nice work.

[SCATTERSHOT]

Thanks for sharing that tip...(no pun intended) looks great.

[defiant]

YES!    Great idea and cheap, thanks.

[Bowsey Wails]

Using the rivet pictured earlier and 6 brass washers, 125 grains seems to be about maximum. The arrow on top has 3 washers in the tip, between the head of the rivet and the steel washer. There are 3 washers in the casing; this allows room for 7/8" of arrowshaft.

The lower arrow has 2 washers in the tip and 4 washers inside, allowing just under 7/8" for shaft.

 

Sorry about the image quality.

Tim

[Bard1]

looks simple enough and cheep.  But for those of us who have never used a rivet...how do you put it all together?  would you do a build along step by step?  I'd really like to try making some of these. Thanks
Derek

[kyle]

What, nobody use nutters 'round here no more?

[adeeden]

Kyle I like the nutters! But I mount them on brass like above. I use 8/32 wingnuts and the old rivet! Works very well for me.

[the Ferret]

Bard you could use a wood screw I imagine, just need to drill a hole in the bottom of the casing and a pilot hole in the end of the shaft.

Hi Kyle..long time no see  

[kyle]

kep nuts....that's the ticket.  Them's the little nuts with the star washer already fixed to em. screw 'em on and go wit 'em.  

Not trying to hijack yer thread, yer points look pretty slick too Bowsey.

Hey Ferret, I've been so busy with work that I ain't even shot a bow nor broke rocks seriously for 'bout a year now.  Stinks sometimes bein' the big boss, but the pay ain't too bad.

[the Ferret]

Kyle, please email me. I pm'd you but it came back undeliverable

[Bowsey Wails]

Bard1, I need to learn the photography portion better before I attempt a photographic build along.

You will need a hand rivet tool, available at any hardware store, some rivets, and washers. I used a 3/16 wide by 1/4 long aluminum rivet.

With the rivet in the tool I placed 3 brass washers on the rivet, then a larger diameter washer (to better cover/hold the starwasher), then the starwasher, and then the shell casing*.
Squeeze the tool a couple of times and these pieces are one, the excess nail removed from the rivet.


*Tap the primer out of the casing and then drill a 1/8 or 3/16 diameter hole, depending upon the rivets diameter.

I then dropped 3 brass washers into the shell casing for added weight, making certain the were laying down. Hot melt the casing to the arrow being careful to not upset the brass washers.

This made a 125 grain head. Different materials will give you a heavier head. I used what I had on hand.

These fly great and they are real Lawn Rippers.

Tim

[Aeronut]

That's about the simplest set up for a .38 blunt I've seen.  Great idea.  I've probably got 1000-2000 .38 cases and some of them will be converted.

Dennis

[Jim Harris]

I am going to make some of these to try on cottontails. Looks like they should do the trick.

[TRADITIONAL ONLY]

SHARP!  

[VA Bowbender]

Very nice.  Here's my version.  It's part Judo and part Hex Head.
 

 

Made from .357 casing, pop rivet and a 1" square of banding.

[flinch]

Both of those look like they would really get the job done and are very durable.  Thanks to both of you.  I think I am going to make some with some round sheet metal washers also.   The riveting idea is cool.   Thanks again.

[draco]

These are some points I've made and used thru the years.They all work well,and are really cheap and easy to build.