Ti Goat V. Kifaru Stove...tent stove advice wanted

[Milk River Stickman]

I am looking at purchasing a small tent stove to be used in my tipi tent...GoLite shangri-la 5...I am looking at the Titanium Goat small box stove and the Kifaru small box stove.  I like both the companies.  I am looking at ultralight for pack in hunts, so the ti-goat is looking better at a pound less and the titanium has it's benefits, maybe worth the extra $70 or so...I like the design of the Kifaru as far as the all-threads holding the box tight together rather than some screws I can lose...I know Kifaru's are tested and designed by the best...Please help if you have any experience with either or drop another brand i should look at, please.  Thanks for your help, this is going to drive me nuts.    

[Steve O]

If I was going with a TiGoat stove, it would be the cylinder.  Of the two box stoves I have used from both companies, the Kifaru was more solid.  Tighter is the best way I can describe.

I know "Ed T" is making a cylinder stove now, cannot recall if he is doing a box.  He used to make the Kifaru models.  Seek Outside may be something you want to look at.

[Mike Vines]

I have the Seekoutside large stove that Steve is talkin about, but because of this arrow footing project I'm trying to get perfected, I have not had time to even get the initial burn on the stove.  On thier website, there is some very good literature and videos.  It was that info that prompted me to buy it.

PM me for the website.

[Orion]

I have a Kifaru.  Never tried the T Goat.  Kifaru works fine and is pretty easy to set up.  The medium kifaru is a little bigger than the small T-goat and a little smaller than the large T-goat.  Don't know the size of your tent, but the medium Kifaru is plenty big for a 6-person Kifaru tipi.  

I think the T-goat would be a lot easier to set up (than it is now, and easier than setting up the Kifaru) if one had thumb nuts on the end of the screws.  Much easier to keep track of and use.  Don't know if those could be purchased after market.  Certainly could be made.  That's something the manufacturer should think about.  Could carry a hand full of those and not worry about losing one or two of them.

[kuch]

i have been looking at all three of the above mentioned. Like seekoutside but will probably try to make my own as I have a small supply of Ti plate.

[Milk River Stickman]

Thanks for the help and opinions....anywone else?

[Montanawidower]

I have the Kifaru and am not real impressed.  (There was a thread several months back discussing this at length.)

My issue with the Kifaru is the lack of seal.  It's either blazing or out.  In a pinch its good, but get ready to have tons of small wood. (it will eat it as fast as you can feed it.)

If you can get away with the bulk, I'd buy a welded, sealed titanium stove.  Sealed stoves you can light, burn down, stoke, and turn down for a comfortable slow burn.  My 2cents.

Jeff

[Biathlonman]

I like the small kifaru box stove.  They are easy to set up but heavy.  EdT's cylinder stove is the best thing going.  Can't recommend him or his products enough...

[Milk River Stickman]

I am checking out Ed T's website and Seekoutsides, thanks for the direction to all of you...I guess I need to consider a cylinder stove...what are you exeriences as far as cooking / boiling on them?

[Kevin Hansen]

Originally posted by Milk River Stickman:
I am checking out Ed T's website and Seekoutsides, thanks for the direction to all of you...I guess I need to consider a cylinder stove...what are you exeriences as far as cooking / boiling on them?

Directions to Ed T's website???

[Scott Teaschner]

Who makes an all welded Titanium stove? Have you seen one Jeff? I have an all welded cylinder stove for my spike tent it will burn a long time. But it weighs 35 lbs. I have been looking at the Ti Goat to save on space and weight. None of the the colapsable stoves are great as far as burn times but I just figured that is the trade off. I want to be able to get all my gear on one horse I have it done with what I have but if I ditch the 30 lbs it means I can bring something extra or just give my horse a break!

[Lone archer]

I just purchased a 6 man with a med stove.  I have never seen any of the stove mentioned except on line.  

I have already starting thinking, why can't the use some type of gasket material similar to a wood burning stove door to make the stoves more air tight, that would help them burn longer, without adding a lot of  weight. A then gasket glued in place.

[Karl Kortemeier]

i have the 6 man seekoutside tipi and their medium stove.  I also have Kifaru's parastove. I also have a 4 dog night steel stove.  You will not go wrong with any of these companies.  Seekoutside uses titanium so they are a bit lighter.  Kifaru uses s. steel.  I have their smallest stove (parastove).  It is a great little stove.  I use it when I am solo hunting.  4 dog is a sealed solid stove.  It burns great, but it is way too heavy to pack in unless a horse or mule is doing it.  I use it in my shop or for car camping.

The medium Seek Outside stove is almost to large for me.  I live in the south and it rarely gets below freezing. It will chase you out of the tent.  For the 6 man size, it is great, especially if you live in a colder area of the country.

Hope this helps.

[mjh]

Four Dog Stove in MN make a solid titanium stove, I think mine weights in at about 18lbs its about 11inchs wide by about 22 inches long give or take, can get it with titaniun sectioned pipe.  If  your packinging with animal support it might be a good way to go.

[Steve O]

You guys are talking two different animals here.  You are not going to have an airtight "all night" stove that weighs 3lb and goes in your backpack!

[John Havard]

Scott, if you want a solid titanium "all night" stove that doesn't break down I can highly recommend the 4-dog titanium stove.  I have used the largest one that Don Kevilus makes for a few years in my 16-man Kifaru tipi.  I'm having him custom make me a larger one.  It's air tight and it can be dampened down and burn times, depending on the quality of the wood available, is several hours.

The  titanium stove pipe from 4-dog is the only way to go.

Again, as Steve says, the 4-dog titanium stoves aren't designed to be collapsible and put into a backpack.  But they are very lightweight and airtight.   Just the ticket for flying in where the weight of a steel stove isn't practical.

Here's the website:   http://fourdog.com/titanium-ul-stoves/

[Kevin Hansen]

Originally posted by Steve O:
You guys are talking two different animals here.  You are not going to have an airtight "all night" stove that weighs 3lb and goes in your backpack!

Agreed! I'm no expert on stoves, but based on my experiences with a Kifaru large stove and on what I have learned from others, Steve is right on the money.

[JockC]

I just handled Ed Tyanich's stoves (and keep in mind he designed for Kifaru) along with some other lightweight folding stoves, and I'm going to buy his 12" cylinder stove to replace a medium folder that I'll sell.  What they weigh and pack down to, in addition to wood capacity and heat transfer, is superior to anything else I've seen.

[Scott Teaschner]

Jock,
 I do not see the cylinder stove on the seek outside web is it new. Why is the cylinder better? I have a 10x10 canvas spike tent will that stove heat it? What are the burn times? The only fold downs I have seen are Simms. They where the big ones for big tents and loaded to the hilt maybe two hours. Now it is not that sleeping in the cold is a problem but you have to get up to keep it going to dry clothes.
Scott

[Kevin Hansen]

Where can I look at the stoves that Ed T makes?