3Rivers Archery



The Trad Gang Digital Market













Contribute to Trad Gang and Access the Classifieds!

Become a Trad Gang Sponsor!

Traditional Archery for Bowhunters






LEFT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS TRAD GANG CLASSIFIEDS ACCESS RIGHT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS


Author Topic: Carbon insert glues???  (Read 772 times)

Offline snag

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 6337
Carbon insert glues???
« on: July 26, 2007, 12:30:00 PM »
I know it's a carbon shaft question...not wood! But I like carbons too. So, last night after I finished up some spruce shafts and turned to making some carbons up. I realized I didn't have anymore of the epoxy glue that the place I had bought the shafts from recommend. I looked at the Platinum Fletch-tite tube and it says it is for carbon along with other substances. Will it work for putting inserts in these carbon shafts?
Isaiah 49:2...he made me a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.

Offline Bradley Holley

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 31
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 12:45:00 PM »
The glue you have will probably work fine as long as you clean all of the residue out of the inside of the shafts from where you cut them. I use 90% rubbing alcohol and Q-tips. Good luck.

Offline Kindred Mark

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 45
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 01:24:00 PM »
would recommend a trip to a hardware store and get long cure 2 part epoxy over the fletch tite.  You will get a better bond with the expoxy.
Aim Small, Miss Small

Offline snag

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 6337
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 01:41:00 PM »
I think I am more comfortable with the epoxy idea. I would hate to have a failure while hunting or losing a head in a target.
Isaiah 49:2...he made me a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.

Offline hill boy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 627
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2007, 04:38:00 PM »
I clean the inside of tube with a 22cal brush and use sand paper or anything to ruff up the insert,then i use the amber hot glue.I havent had a problem yet,and they are easy to remove with a hot long screw.  :campfire:
Your best shot is only as good as your next one!

Offline Shawn Leonard

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 7837
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2007, 04:47:00 PM »
No, the Fletch-tite will not work, it will hold them there but pull out fairly easy. Long cure epoxy is best. I used to use 5  minute epoxy and had some trouble with them pulling out, went to the 24 hour stuff and it is the best. Shawn
Shawn

Offline snag

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 6337
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2007, 04:52:00 PM »
Thanks guys. How about JB Weld??? I have to get some for making a knife.
Isaiah 49:2...he made me a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.

Offline Hardhed

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 100
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2007, 04:53:00 PM »
I use Goat Tuff glue, without any prep to the inside of the shaft whatsoever, no alcohol, no roughing up.  Never had one pull out.  Then again, I'm not quite sure how I would manage to get them back out if I wanted-

Offline electric blues

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 54
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2007, 07:19:00 PM »
I've used Fletch-tite on mine, and I abuse my arrows pretty bad. They've held up so far.

Offline Jason R. Wesbrock

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 2507
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2007, 08:50:00 PM »
Fletch-tite is a liquid fletching cement -- not designed for inserts or points or any type. Ferr-L-Tite is a hot melt glue designed for inserts and points. That's what I've been using to glue inserts into my carbons since about '92 or so, and I've never had a problem with it.

Offline JRY309

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 4383
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2007, 08:59:00 PM »
I like Bohning Powerbond,never had one pull out and I like to be able to get the insert back out if I decide to change it.

Offline Bonebuster

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3397
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2007, 09:31:00 PM »
I second what Hill Boy said. Been doing it that way with zero problems.

Be patient with the heat and they can be removed.

Offline Cupcake

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 291
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2007, 11:19:00 PM »
Three of the ideas are good.

I have used hot-melt and it is good if you are patient.

24 hour epoxy is better than 5 minute and both can be removed by heating the tip with a point inserted to weaken the epoxy.

JB weld is probably the strongest and I bet hard to remove.  You could glue a battleship to the empire state building with JB Weld.  My friend once repaired his exhaust valve seat with it and raced his motorcycle for the whole season.

Offline longstick

  • TGMM Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ***
  • Posts: 541
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2007, 12:06:00 AM »
Im a Loctite superglue guy,,,and they will remove easily when heated in the field point
>>-TGMM Family of the Bow-->

Offline hill boy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 627
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2007, 03:04:00 PM »
If you will dip the tip in water immediatly after installing the broad head it will set the hot glue quicker and better.Use amber glue for permanent .Use the white glue when experimiting.wipe everything down with mineral spirits alcahol or paint thinner,water somthing before applying the hot glue. good luck
Your best shot is only as good as your next one!

Offline eagle24

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 499
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 03:55:00 PM »
I use Loc-Tite gel type super glue.  Had no problems and it is quick and easy.  Been shooting broadheads into a yellow jacket block without any pulling out.

Offline TRADITIONAL ONLY

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 225
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2007, 04:07:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Hardhed:
I use Goat Tuff glue, without any prep to the inside of the shaft whatsoever, no alcohol, no roughing up.  Never had one pull out.  Then again, I'm not quite sure how I would manage to get them back out if I wanted-
BINGO! thats what i do and aint had a problem yet!

as to answer your question on how to remove them, just heat up a field point that is screwed into the point then pull it out. however, if you dont manage to get all the way into the shaft before it sets up, dont heat it up and push it in and leave it, cause it wont hold. been there done that got that tshirt...
pull it out, clean it and then reglue it and out it back in.

NO! dont use fletch tite for inserts, also got the t shirt for that. used it on a bowfishing point, it managed to stay on one night but fell off before we went the next night...
If its brown its down; thats my motto.


"The great questions of the day are decided... by blood and iron"  Otto von Bismark

Offline TaterHill Archer

  • Moderator
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ***
  • Posts: 603
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2007, 12:52:00 AM »
Go to golfworks.com and get some epoxy for golf clubs.  they make some specifically for carbon and its made to take an impact.  If my heads can take me beating them on the ground when I miss, the glue should hold an insert just fine.
Jeff

"Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you."  Benjamin Franklin

Offline heydeerman

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1138
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2007, 05:12:00 AM »
Been using JB Weld for a while now. Never had one pull out.

Offline snag

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 6337
Re: Carbon insert glues???
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2007, 05:40:00 PM »
Roknjs, great idea. Should of thought of that. There is a golf club repair place here in town. I'll see if I can't buy a tube off them. For now the JB Weld seems to be doing the job.
Isaiah 49:2...he made me a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.

Users currently browsing this topic:

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
 

Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement

Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©