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Offline Ron LaClair

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18th century knife for bow hunting?
« on: October 24, 2006, 10:51:00 PM »
I just got this new riflemans knife hand forged by Mike Mann of Idaho Knife Works. I sent it to Chuck Burrows of Wild Rose Trading and had him make a period correct sheath.

I know the 9" blade is too big to be practical and the quilled and beaded sheath is too fancy to carry in the woods but....pleasssse tell me I should take it hunting.   :pray:  

Here's what Chuck said about the knife and sheath,

"The sheath liner is double thickness elk rawhide with a braintan buckskin piece sewn into place at the inside top. The cover is braintan buckskin dyed with walnut hull dye. The sash flap is a piece of buffalo rawhide. All sewing was done with linen or hemp thread or real elk sinew. The beads are antique 8/0 pound beads. The style and porcupine quillwork decoration is based on a couple of existing original 18th sheaths. The quills were dyed with natural dyes: the black/brown quills were dyed with a mix of walnut hulls and ground charcoal, the red with red ocher, and the yellow with rabbit brush, a local southwest member of the sunflower family. The cone tinklers are handmade brass with buffalo hair tufts, They are attached with linen cord through copper and antique glass pound beads."
BTW - the blade is based on the one excavated at Ft. Ticonderoga."

   
   
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Offline Marblesonac

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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 11:06:00 PM »
Beautiful knife, but it DOES need just a bit of blood on it.

Take it out for a walk in the country Ron...it deserves to be christened....
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 11:13:00 PM »
well now I think ya should take it hunting.  Come on down here to Fort Worth.  I got a sounder of pigs connered.  One or two of 'em are just about the right size to put your knife to the test.  :) .  I'll be happy to hold the dog and your coat while ya take care of 'em  :)  oh and mamma may be a little big to try the knife on.  I had a shot at her Sunday night and passed.  :)   I didn't have a clue how I'd get sumpin that big out of the boggy bottoms!!

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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 11:14:00 PM »
Ron,
I know where you're coming from.....I have a few customs that I would be very upset if they were scratched or dinged.  I could definitely see myself pulling something like that out around the campsite or campfire to spark some conversation. I once read a comment on a custom knife forum that made sense to me, either get satisfaction from using it, or keep it in mint condition in hopes of making money on it for resale or trade.  There is nothing gained if it were to sit in a safe or display case.  That knife is just asking for some history which may make it even more special.  Besides, a 9" blade makes a perfect camp knife...she's a beauty.  I love Chuck's sheaths.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 11:46:00 PM »
Ron,

Bring it to camp. I'll use it to slice apples for the apple pie.   :D  

Greg says he'll have camp meat hanging by tomorrow night, so we could use it as a boning knife too.   :biglaugh:
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 11:51:00 PM »
Ron.  much of what we do is done because of the feelings it gives us.  I could shoot a deer every day with a rifle, but that gives me no feelings.

If carrying that beauty imparts any feeling at all of pride, of delight or even just a good feeling of the weight of it in your belt, then wear it next hunt.  You can't take it with you in the end, enjoy it on the journey there.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2006, 12:05:00 AM »
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If carrying that beauty imparts any feeling at all of pride, of delight or even just a good feeling of the weight of it in your belt, then wear it next hunt. You can't take it with you in the end, enjoy it on the journey there.
Good words Chuck.

I'd take it huntin.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2006, 12:22:00 AM »
Well spoken Chuck!!!
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2006, 01:17:00 AM »
Don't put it down in front of me when I'm eating or you might see sparks flying off that and the fork I'm holding; if I'm real hungry   :bigsmyl:  
I't make me smile to see you pull it out and carve the Thanksgiving turkey.
For really, it's a beauty!
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Offline Jerry Jeffer

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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2006, 02:53:00 AM »
I'd say you should use it at least one time. What is the point of having some thing you never use. It sure is nice.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2006, 05:23:00 AM »
Well I think you should use it at least once..
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2006, 05:26:00 AM »
Hi guys. My opinion is use it. I'm a pipe smoker and there's plenty of people that buy these fancy pipes and never smoke them 'cause they look "too nice to smoke." BS!!! It's a tool that was created to be used!

But that's just me  :)  Perhaps it does have more value to you as an art piece or you could make some money off it down the road if it's in pristine condition. Only you can utimately make that call. If it was me, it'd get used.

Happy hunting.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2006, 05:52:00 AM »
NO you should not take it hunting. Send it to me and I'll take it hunting. Sides you got plenty of knives to take  LOL. Heck Ron take her with ya that is just a great knife and Sheath. I love when you post pics of all them knives.<><
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2006, 07:05:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Ron LaClair:
....pleasssse tell me I should take it hunting.    :thumbsup:  

that is a REAL beauty!!!!
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2006, 07:31:00 AM »
The original was found at Fort Ticonderoga you say. Well based on it's ancestor, it would be an insult to not use that knife. Take it hunting like it is meant for. A knife like that gets character marks not dings.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2006, 08:45:00 AM »
Wow!   :notworthy:      :notworthy:      :notworthy:  
That is beautiful!!! - the knife and the sheath both...

I'd take it hunting - nothing is more beautiful than when we're using it for its true purpose.  You'll get more enjoyment carrying it than you ever will looking at it.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2006, 09:22:00 AM »
Ron, you  know you are going to carry it hunting - even if everyone of us screamed, "NOOOoooooo...," at the top of our upper case. Sure is a beauty and that sheath is just unreal. It's funny, as a younger man I always wore a sheath knife on my belt (as a kid, my Ma used to have to check me everytime we went anywhere "dressed up" to see if I had one on) anytime I was in the woods or on the water for any reason. In the MC I always wore a K-Bar "in the field" and had a Cutco fishing knife and a Cutco hunting knife for those occasions. Now, as an older dude, I strongly believe in my Bug Away suit and so I can't get to my belt any more - LOL - besides I quite often have a fanny pack on, with little extra room on it. So, now my sheath knives are ashamedly relegated to my packs and/or my truck's extended cab area and I stick a folder in my pocket. Kinda sad, huh    :(  

 TAKE IT HUNTING, HOSS!
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2006, 09:56:00 AM »
Nice knife, and a great sheath. Almost too perdy to hunt with.

Ron,I sent you a pm.
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2006, 10:14:00 AM »
Ron,

 That is one fine looking setup you have. I would like to think it will be used with great pride in the craftsmen who made them.

  As usual your photography is top notch. Worthy of any magazine.

Ivan
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Re: 18th century knife for bow hunting?
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2006, 11:02:00 AM »
When I grow up, I want to be like Mr. LaClair!
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