Dale gave me the SECOND bow he ever built many years ago. Considering it was only his second attempt at bow building, it was a piece of art. It was very hard for me to believe it was only the second bow the man built. Craftsmanship was SUPERB and it shot very well. Unfortunately, it came out at 78# @ 28". Too heavy for me. A sad story follows. I loaned it to a muscular neighbor guy who seemed to take an interest in bowhunting. He showed me he could handle the poundage. A year or so later I ran into the guy and asked how he liked it. He told me that he loaned it to someone else to try but couldn't remember who he loaned it to. He gave me two names. I contacted both guys. Neither knew what I was talking about. The original neighbor apologized but again told me he couldn't remember. The guy had a drinking problem back then. I assume he sold it for booze money or lost it in a bet. I haven't seen it since. Sad but true. I made it a point to tell Dale to keep his eye out for it so he wouldn't think I sold it but as far as I know, it hasn't been seen since :>(