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Author Topic: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?  (Read 210 times)

Online ozy clint

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10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« on: May 22, 2012, 07:45:00 PM »
been running 12 strands on my 70# recurve. just wondering if you think 10 strands would be ok. it's my water buff hunting bow and i'm looking at getting the best performance that i can out of it.
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 08:08:00 PM »
Your going to have some creep and stretch with 10 strand of d97.  I tested alot of the material out there on scales up to 350# and still have found UltraCam to be #1 if your looking to go a lower strand count with a heavier bow.  10 strands of it on there and you would be good.

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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 08:27:00 PM »
I don't feel the risk would be worth the very minimal rewards.Just MO
I would look at my serving over string count.A lighter weight and shorter legnth serving could be more benefitcal.

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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 09:36:00 PM »
I prefer heavier on my hunting bows for safety, mine and the bow. I never considered the added speed significant, especially when using heavy arrows.
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 09:38:00 PM »
I make a lot of D-97 strings, would go with 12-14 strands, if it were my equipment, jmho.
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 11:04:00 PM »
Not likely you'll gain anything but more stretch and creep and reduced durability.

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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 11:39:00 PM »
thanks for the oppinions guys.
i might stick with the 12 strand strings i have already.

cheers, clint
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2012, 01:01:00 AM »
Like Glenn said,changing to a differant material will give you added benefits especially Ultracam or D10.after using these two materials I would never go back to D97 theres just to much creep and adjusting.
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 02:20:00 AM »
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I don't feel the risk would be worth the very minimal rewards.Just MO
I would look at my serving over string count.A lighter weight and shorter legnth serving could be more benefitcal.
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 03:45:00 AM »
I would change material as well,D10 hasn't any stretch and much tougher,if I ain't wrong any stand has 100# resistence.
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2012, 08:18:00 AM »
I've tried 10 strands of D-10, made it gentler in the hand, and a touch more quiet, but, through my chrono it was no faster than my 18strand!!
Both were made with similar "twists" per inch and similar serving and all that jazz, but time after time through that chrono there wasn't a difference.
 Perfect your "pull through release!" time after time, perfect it, you will pick up WAY more performance than any super string with a static release.

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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 09:24:00 AM »
Dynaflight '97 wasn't designed for being made into a 10 strand string on a 70# bow.  It's an excellent material when used properly.

BCY discontinued Dynaflight '10.

If you like a small diameter string, Formula 8125 works well.  

If you like a very small diameter string, 8190 is a tiny strand and has the least stretch/creep of any 100% Dyneema material... but it's not a huge leap over 8125.

Performance gains from dropping a couple of strands are generally minimal at best.  The more you go up in draw weight, the less you gain by going with a lighter string.

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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 11:52:00 AM »
Listen to Chad. In my testing I have proven to myself that dropping from a 16 strand fast flight plus string to a 8 strand string results in minimal increase in velocity (3-4fps).
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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 03:17:00 PM »
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BCY discontinued Dynaflight '10.

I'm sure Chad is aware of this...but for those who might not be:

Just food for thought...Force 10 is the old D-10 with a higher wax content according to Ray @ BCY.

Also my vote is for 12 strands also.

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Re: 10 strand endless D97 on 70#'er?
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 10:39:00 PM »
Force 10 is SK78 Dyneema (like Dynaflight '10), and was developed as x-bow string material.  Just not enough difference in it and Dynaflight '97 (SK75 Dyneema) to keep it around as regular bowstring material, especially after the introduction of 8190 (SK90 Dyneema).

Even with the much higher grade of Dyneema in the 8190, I don't see a big difference.

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