sharpening with a file

[Jake Diebolt]

I never used to be able to get anything sharp with a file. But lately, I've been using them on knives and broadheads for the 'coarse edge' before polishing, and occasionally wondering if I should even bother going to a stone. Especially when I occasionally go to a smoother stone and make the thing less sharp!

[SuperK]

Hey Harleywriter, I couldn't agree with you more! This is a thread long overdue. Lots of folks use a file to sharpen their broadheads.  It's a very practical skill that is often overlooked.

[Brazos]

I am interested in this as a file would be easy t carry on the hunt.  What files do y'all recommend.  I saw one person above likes a Kustom King file.  Any others out there worth mentioning?

[Bud B.]

I went to my local Lowe's and bought a 6" Nicholson Mill Bastard file and the plastic handle to go with it. It has served me well. Not real expensive,  either.

[Charlie Lamb]

Grobet are the best in my opinion, but any will do the job if they are sharp. The difference is in how long they last.

The biggest mistake most guys make is buying a file and thinking they never will need to replace it. If you hunt a lot you'll probably need to replace your file each year. If not so much then every other year.
If the teeth look shiny...replace it!

[TaterHill Archer]

Originally posted by cahaba:
I use a file too. Its an easy carry item in the field. Also use cardboard some. Mr. Charlie Lamb has a good tutorial on using a file. Its where I learned some finer points on how to use one properly.

Is the file tutorial on TradGang?

[Charlie Lamb]

Jeff,

Here it is from the "How To Resources"

   file sharpening

[Kevin Dill]

I'm the guy who mentioned the Kustom King Broadhead File. I discovered years ago that this file has a fairly smooth and rounded edge, instead of the usual flat edge with file teeth. I use that rounded edge as a steel. I file-sharpen a head until it's cutting arm hair. Then I hold the file 'edge-up' and stationary (left hand) while stroking (steeling) the broadhead edges. I have my own very specific technique as does everyone.

One of the tougher things for most guys...when it comes to files...is sharpening free-hand while maintaining a consistent angle. When I reach the point of filing "this edge...flip, other edge...flip" and doing one file stroke per edge, it can be hard to maintain an angle. I have no secret for this. I've been doing it for so many years that I can just free-hand file from rough edge to totally hair-peeling sharp.

I don't know the maker of the KK file. Pretty sure it's not a Grobet, and for sure not a Nicholson. It's made in Portugal and stamped with a 'W'. Great file.

[Gil Verwey]

I can get broadheads very sharp with one of the polishing wheels and jewelers rough.

I watched Ray Hammond get some Grizzlies sharper than I could on the wheel in a minute with a file and leather strop. I was amazed.

Ray told me that the wheel is good but you can't take it with you. He was right.

[PowDuck]

Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Jeff,

Here it is from the "How To Resources"

   file sharpening  

Are these on YouTube? My iPad won't pull up that type video.

[yankeevol]

Files are great, but KME gets my bleeder inserts sharper than I can with a file.

[Russ Clagett]

part of the success of the original poster was the fact that he is sharpening Ace broadheads.

Ace is all i shoot now cause they fly great, sharpen easily, and are American made.......

Beat that.

[TaterHill Archer]

Originally posted by PowDuck:
 

Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Jeff,

Here it is from the "How To Resources"

   file sharpening  

Are these on YouTube? My iPad won't pull up that type video. [/b]

Downloaded an app called azul so I could watch them on my iPad.  Works great.

[Nate Steen .]

I have only ever used a file.  With zwickeys or ace or magnus or similar i can be shaving hair in 20-25 stokes per edge....I single bevel and it takes oh...about two minutes per head if I take my time.

[Ray Hammond]

Two "secrets"-

 first don't try to "cut" with the file. Let the weight of the file do the majority of the work

Second- find a stationary object like the edge of a stair railing or table - something other than your knee that lets you hold that head at a consistent angle to keep from rolling the edge instead of sharpening it when you push against it with the file

You've all seen the video of Fred Bear sitting by the fire and sharpening freehand - well DON'T do that!

[PowDuck]

Originally posted by roknjs:
 

Originally posted by PowDuck:
 

Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Jeff,

Here it is from the "How To Resources"

   file sharpening  

Are these on YouTube? My iPad won't pull up that type video. [/b]

Downloaded an app called azul so I could watch them on my iPad.  Works great. [/b]

Thanks, Jeff. Worked like a charm.

[Kevin Dill]

I took the Kustom King file and removed the wood handle, replacing it with a Forester chainsaw file grip. I also used a piece of large-diameter heat-shrink tubing to create a light sheath. I simply heated the end of the tube gently and slowly...just enough for it to grip the last couple inches of the file. Someday I may have a custom Kydex sheath made, but the tubing works great for travel.
 
 

[smokin joe]

another couple of tips:
-- A file handle is a good idea, much safer than not having one. I just use a 3" long section of a stick that I have pre-drilled a little hole in for the file tang.
-- file to establish the edge and true it up -- then go light and stroke with just the weight of the file to sharpen. You get things sharp by stroking the edge lightly, not by filing it down.
-- Ray Hammond's advice about finding a solid surface is good. Sharpening a moving broad head would be beyond the limits of anyone's coordination.

[Gil Verwey]

Ray I wish you would do a video. That was the fastest and sharpest I have ever seen a person get a broadhead.

You tocuhed mine up and just watching you sharpen another I cut my finger on the one you sharpened for me and bled all over the deck at Hog heaven. That is the truth.

If you do one I will file it with the pork shoulder recipe.

Gil

[Knotter]

Originally posted by Kevin Dill:
I took the Kustom King file and removed the wood handle, replacing it with a Forester chainsaw file grip. I also used a piece of large-diameter heat-shrink tubing to create a light sheath. I simply heated the end of the tube gently and slowly...just enough for it to grip the last couple inches of the file. Someday I may have a custom Kydex sheath made, but the tubing works great for travel.
   
   

Nice!