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Offline tippit

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Caper---Hollow or Flat
« on: August 03, 2007, 09:55:00 AM »
The caper is my every day knife whether goin' to the store or field.  It's small enough not to even notice it on your belt but capable of skinnin' & dressin' out a deer or bear.  Equally at home for cuttin' the cheese & crackers with a nice glass of wine   :goldtooth:  

Since the bear hunt knife trials, I know I don't need to fuss with changin' the design of the caper.  My Question now is:

Will it preform better as a hollow ground blade or a flat ground blade   :confused:    Only one way to find out...made up one of each with spalted oak courtesy of 4runr.  Top flat ground, bottom hollow ground...Doc

 

 
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2007, 09:57:00 AM »
OOOOOOOHHHHHH....the agony! Jeff....jest downright painful to look at knives that purdy.  :banghead:
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2007, 09:58:00 AM »
You have my address Doc.    :goldtooth:
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2007, 10:00:00 AM »
Flat grind, for definate! Have you tried one with a Scandi grind?
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2007, 10:01:00 AM »
Emma, Connie and I like the hollow grind best. Adam's too busy playin this mornin to care!!
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2007, 10:05:00 AM »
Doc, I like the Flat grind. If you want a field test, send it to me and I'll test her on Caribou for ya.  :bigsmyl:    :biglaugh:  

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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2007, 10:07:00 AM »
Beautiful Doc  :thumbsup:   Tough decision to make... LOL
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2007, 10:13:00 AM »
Rob,  What is a Scandi grind  :confused:
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2007, 10:33:00 AM »
What JC said - it HURTS!!!!!!
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2007, 10:39:00 AM »
Kind of depends on how thinly the edge is ground prior to sharpening IMO.

If the edge is ground extremely thin (ie the sharpened bevel is actually just a barely visible micro bevel) the hollow ground edge will cut better, but not hold up as well to heavier use.  Great as a skinner, but for other chores... ?

If the edge is left thicker and the sharpened bevel is more pronounced (like in your knives above) there is little difference IMO.

For skinning and cutting up work, I doubt there'll be a difference in the two knives above.  Slicing cheese would be a different story  ;)
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2007, 11:43:00 AM »
Jeremy,  
I have been playing around with how thin I can hollow grind and still keep a durable blade.  Here's a skinner that I finished ground before heat treating...oops got a little warping  :eek:  It still sharpened well just won't be able to sell it  ;)   It should be a great skinner that I don't have to make pretty...Doc

 

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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2007, 02:06:00 PM »
Here's a Scandi ground blade (& a shameless plug!)

 

It's basically a 20-25degree grind, running 1/4 to 1/3 of the way up the blade. Very durable, very easy to re-sharpen & makes for a very strong blade because you're leaving a lot more material on the back. It can be a bit of swine to get straight & looking right though, but that's just practice! If you can hollow grind (& by gum, you really can!) a scandi ought to be a breeze!
It's named for the Scandinavian style of working knife (Puukko) it originated from.
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2007, 03:26:00 PM »
Dayum those are pretty Doc   :notworthy:
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2007, 03:36:00 PM »
How can I get one of those?
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2007, 04:18:00 PM »
Stripstrike,  I guess you have to sign up for the 2nd Annual Quebec Bear Quest and shoot the biggest bear!  One will be in the pot...Doc
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2007, 04:21:00 PM »
Rob,  What I've seen of those blades is they are pretty uniform steel...ie not forge tapered?
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2007, 04:41:00 PM »
All of those Have Beautiful Wood for Handles!  :saywhat:  Especially the 2 in the Start of the Thread!!
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2007, 08:26:00 PM »
Flat looks great. But I like them both.<><
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2007, 08:54:00 PM »
Jeff, no there's no distal taper to the blade. I forge & grind them flat before I do the edge grind. Although, saying that, I've made plenty with a forged taper & a scandi grind.
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Re: Caper---Hollow or Flat
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2007, 09:01:00 PM »
:help:    :help:  

I wanna be Jeff's stable boy and Rob's ticket to FEEDOM  :goldtooth:
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