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OaKmAn44
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woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 05:16:00 PM »
I'm looking for a good, easy to sharpen broadhead for a good price and I've heard good things about both the woodsman and tree shark. which one penetrates better and which one makes the better hole?
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Alexander Traditional
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 05:21:00 PM »
I would say the tree shark for sure on the better hole.
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awbowman
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 05:23:00 PM »
All things like weight and DL being equal, the Woodsman would be easier for sharpening IMO.
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Shedrock
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 05:33:00 PM »
The Woodsman leaves a plenty good hole/holes. I have put down many animals with them. Easy to get really sharp too.
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TommyBoy
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 05:59:00 PM »
Both are great heads. Get a six pack of each and make up a dozen arrows and see what you like better.
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TommyBoy
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 06:07:00 PM »
I shoot the Woodsmen or the VPA, but I have been looking hard at the Treesharks. Therefore I will be watching this thread.
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LimBender
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 06:24:00 PM »
Both are great heads. I have both and think the VPA with a straight edge is easier to sharpen - but I am sharpening challenged.
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scottfix
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 07:32:00 PM »
GREAT QUESTION!! Ive been having this debate in my head for a few months. Ive always been a two blade shooter, but the woodsmen/vpa heads are very appealing. Looks like they would be easier to get and keep razor sharp, plus that extra blade should leave a bigger blood trail. Would love to hear from those who have shot both.
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awbowman
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 07:42:00 PM »
The non-vented VPA is the cats meow!
Although you can't argue with the treeshark pics. What weight and DL are you pulling?
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dink
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 08:29:00 PM »
i shot both i say the tree shark is hands down the better for better blood on the ground. if you want to go even a step better look at the battle axe in a single bevel thats my go to head for whitetails sharpens easy with a chainsaw file its everything a tree shark is and then some.
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LCH
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 08:45:00 PM »
Simmon's for me. LCH
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Mongo
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 02, 2012, 10:48:00 PM »
TreeShark!
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SAM E. STEPHENS
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 12:00:00 AM »
I have killed many animals with both and as said above both are great heads. But the TreeShark puts a hole in things like none other and big holes means lots of liquid on the ground. ( I havent shot the BattleAxe but I will ). Once you get the feel for the sharpening it is not that hard for either.Good luck how ever you go......
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 12:59:00 AM »
A woodsman won't put near the amount of blood on the ground as the treeshark . As far as penetration goes, how far into the ground is far enough with a treeshark? Both will easily pass through a deer, bear, or caribou...
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 10:09:00 AM »
I shoot both. Woodsmans for me are simple to sharpen and fly always perfect. Tree sharks do make a gash for sure. Just don't fly as well for me and are a little tougher to sharpen.
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 01:42:00 PM »
Utilizing Muzzy's Slash Factor Equation which takes into account blade width and/or dia., # of blades and required depth of penetration to achieve a pass thru.
Note: Estimated 8"s for complete penetration on whitetails.
BH dia. and/or width.................................Slash Factor
Terminator 1 ¼” 200 gn 3Bl...........1.250.........15.0
Simmons 'Tree Shark' 190 gn 2 Bl..2.000.........16.0
Centaur 'Battle Axe' 214 gn 2 Bl.....2.125.........17.0
Big Jim's 'Big 3' 300 gn 3 Bl...........1.500.........18.0
Advantage in slash factor by selecting the Big 3(mfg. by VPA)
Terminator 1 1/4" 200 gn 3BL...................20.0%
Simmons 'Tree Shark' 190 gn 2" 2BL..........12.5%
Centaur 'Battle Axe' 214 gn 2 1/8 2Bl...........5.90%
Big Jim's 'Big 3' 300 1.5"gn 3Bl
Utilizing an over-all lethal arrow design, the choice, for me, is not too difficult. The Big 3’s are easy to sharpen, dig deep, fly true and leave trails that Hansel and Gretel could follow. Note: Totally disintegrated an 18 in 1 Rhinehart in 3 ½ weeks utilizing a 51# bow in conjunction with an Ultra-EFOC 611 gn arrow. Also, pass thru on a doe- chest entrance...full body length penetration and inside back left thigh exit. She laid down on the spot.
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Shedrock
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 01:49:00 PM »
Pass-through on a bull elk with a Woodsman. Short, heavy, 40 yard blood trail.
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JamesKerr
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 01:55:00 PM »
I would go with a non vented Woodsman Elite/VPA Terminator over the tree shark.
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 08:23:00 PM »
Simmons Carnage...
Woodsman penetration from a 47@27 longbow...
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RC
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Re: woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark
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July 03, 2012, 08:24:00 PM »
Can`t loose with either.RC
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