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Author Topic: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??  (Read 2238 times)

Offline Nala

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #80 on: July 11, 2012, 01:08:00 AM »
The ESEE knives are nice too.  I have been looking at the Becker series knives as well.  I particularly like the BK17, BK15, the Becker Necker, the BK7 and BK5.

WAY too many nice knives out there to narrow them down.  Kinda like bows...

Thanks all.

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2012, 02:06:00 AM »
ESEE over Becker ... every time !
Fit and finish is much better IMHO .....
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2012, 06:13:00 AM »
Ben... my good man. I'll be packen' that there Wombat in 'combat' up the Cape next week mate. I shall give you a run down on it's performance upon my return to white man country!


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P.S... made some calls re; my line of knives...stay tuned. Does a chap buy the name John Foxwell ring any bells?
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2012, 10:08:00 AM »
I met Bill Bagwell of Bowie Knife fame in 1980. I was longbow hunting turkeys with Ben Rogers Lee in Coffyville Alabama. Bill lived it the Texas panhandle at the time and made the trip up to get together for some longbow shooting. Back in those days longbow shooters were spread pretty thin.

Anyway a couple years later Bill and I planned a spring bear hunt in Ontario. During a phone conversation before the hunt Bill ask, "Ron, do you have a "Bar" knife"? I told him that I had a lot of knives but I didn't have a specific "Bar" knife..     :dunno:    to which he said I'll bring you one when we meet in Canada.

This is the knife that he gave me and I still have today. In Bill's catalog it was called the Riverboat Bowie and listed for $800.00, a lot of scratch in those days..(even today)     :eek:          

     
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #84 on: July 11, 2012, 10:12:00 AM »
Thats my kinda knife there Ron, what a treasure.

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #85 on: July 11, 2012, 10:47:00 AM »
A treasure indeed. That is a classic. I guess that's where I'm blessed......or cursed, which ever the case. I LOVE Bowies and I dont realy care who makes them. Of course, I like the Bagwell style, but will defer to him as the authority and wont tread to closely on his style. He and I have discussed this and I view his work as iconic.
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2012, 12:42:00 PM »
I should add that the knife Bill gave me was Damascus steel. That was back in the day when Smiths made their damascus the hard way by folding and forge welding and before "cable" damascus. A good damascus blade was bringing $100.00 an inch back then.
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2012, 12:43:00 PM »
i really appreciate your expert input, lin.

reckon we all do.

you mentioned a bowie/camp knife having its edge properly "set up" for chopping.

could you elaborate on that?

thanks.

joe

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2012, 01:17:00 PM »
Thank you sir.

A Camp Knife and some Bowies would need their edge to be slightly thicker and the edge rolled to a more "blunt" shape. This is hardly noticable by most people, but it's there and it makes a difference.

When you hear of the combined edge angle of 20-24 degrees, a Bowie's should be nearer 24. A hunting knife/skinner would naturally be closer to 20 degrees.

Heat treat is important, of course, but the edge geometry is what makes it cut and flow through material.
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #89 on: July 11, 2012, 01:41:00 PM »
The lesson I had to learn when sharpening my katanas, wakazashis, and tantos was to maintain an apple seed edge shape not a flat taper all the way to the edge.  We have cutting as part of our regular practice.  It matters more than one would think when you start to cut through something that is 8" thick.
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #90 on: July 11, 2012, 02:19:00 PM »
lin-

i do sharpen a more blunt or abrupt angle on my bowies than my knives which will only cut, and not see impact.

but "rolled" seems to indicate rounded.  true?

i have not rounded my edge bevel.

should i?

thanks.

joe

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #91 on: July 11, 2012, 02:19:00 PM »
Another one for the pile    

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #93 on: July 11, 2012, 02:43:00 PM »
my, i'm chatty...but i love me some knife talk.

that is a beauty, pack. you can beat 1095, but not by much.

i love the beckers, but like you, can't abide the cheap scales.


i replace mine with gas pipeline
 compressor fan blade stuff.

it either is black micarta, or looks like it, and i get it free.

what is the blade treatment?

again,  very cool.

joe

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2012, 03:14:00 PM »
Thanks Joe
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2012, 03:29:00 PM »
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Originally posted by sledge:
hawks and hatchets do 1 thing very well.  chop.

they generally do that better than a big bowie, but not always, as in my 'coon fight.  i had more margin for error on a moving target.

but chopping is ALL that 'hawks and hatchets can do.

a big bowie can slice, stab, rip, and chop.  

and, as bagwell did to prove a point, skin a mouse.

i think 'hawks and hatchets are cool.  got some.

but they don't approach a bowie in versatility.

joe
I'd take an axe or hatchet over a bowie any day  :D   I've skinned a rabbit with a Gransfors Bruks Small Forest axe, as well as sent myself to the ER.  

If I expect trouble, my S&W 696 is never too far away (the joys of bowhunting in Grizzly country)

The Outdoorsman Axe from GB is new, and I've not used it as much.  But with it in my pack, I can make fire, when ever, where ever, plus more tricks.

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #96 on: July 11, 2012, 03:35:00 PM »
But since this IS a knife thread.

Here's what I usually have in the pack because I can't afford an Ingram

 

And then I also ALWAYS have my Spyderco Delica on me too
 

At least that was what they both looked like new  :D

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #97 on: July 11, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »
Joe, Yes it is indeed rolled. Someone mentioned the appleseed edge. That's it. The shape of an appleseed immitates the cross section of a chopping blade's edge. It's very strong. Think of a slimmed down version of a axe cross section.
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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #98 on: July 11, 2012, 04:02:00 PM »
treeman knives out of ray mi still hand forges out of o1 great knife kick ass sharp check him out

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Re: What BIGGER or CAMP Knife Do You Pack on Your Hunts??
« Reply #99 on: July 11, 2012, 08:13:00 PM »
I'll take these two since I made them. Can't afford the big ones.
 
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